8 & 1

[drache]

this is the best I can do in terms of a close-up

[guidofatherof5]

Wow, I've never seen anything like that. It looks like there may be a lot of ocular/cranial pressure. Even the skin between the eye and skull has pushed out. Any chance you can get a Vet. to take a looks at her.
Other than the eyes is everything else normal(attitude, tongue flicking, movement)
Beautiful snake. Best of luck.

[Mommy2many]

As Steve has said, she is a beautiful snake. Hopefully everything works out for the best. At least she has a loving family

Really is a cutie!

[mustang]

you shoulda named it ray ( huge glasses & blind =ray charles) i think this happend in a pudget a while back....needed surgery....best of luck (im thinkn if you dont let some air out of those baloons he will and really hurt himself)

[Tyrel26]

not to sound cruel but this is one of those cases in which I would be considering getting the snake euthanized

[drache]

It's the very first thing I considered, and he was taking to Sean from the rescue, who has vastly more experience with snakes than I within a couple of hour of his birth for a second opinion
I was told that the snake looked otherwise healthy (he sure does) and that it didn't look any different from the bug eyes that often occur in leucistic rats

[Tyrel26]

well as long as its healthy theres no reason not to keep him but it looks like a migraine from hell lol

[mustang]

A thread earlier had something similar but i cant find it(sorry) but the more i looked for it the more i remember it....i dont think the eye(s) had usefully parts (iris cornea ect) the eye(s) got big and hite and the vet had only done the operation 2ice...on a gopher (died) and corn(lived) the garter ended up making it...on the other eye theyre seems to be red could ya get a pic of it iv experianced bad bad things with blood filled eyes....when i was little and parents said no pet till A honnor roll i didnt care what it was but i wanted a pet....in burnet on one of my uncles ranch/farm we got a little channel cat from lake bucannon and he (my uncle) put it in a bucket and he put it in the cattle trough at his place....i named him slimy he lived for 5 years...whenever i went to burnet i always ran straight to the cattle trough to see him...once i put him in the kittypool and was playing with him and i noticed he was gettn slow and i noticed a litttle red vein/line thing on his fin and i put him back in the trough....the next day i took him out hopn hed get better and his eyes were filled with blood and put him back...the next day he died....i got two what we call mudcats(my uncle thinks theyre the invasive catfish caus channel catfish( which are the only catfish we release in the pond) cant reproduce in a pond and we find thees as babys and if we catch em (usually as adults we usually leave the babies thinkn bass food)he makes us throw em out over hill to die) i saved one he lasted for a year or two before suffering the same fate....a few years ago my uncle bought a fancy catfish from petco and brought it up to burnet with me and it dissapeared one night compleatly and that day we drained the trough(killn 100s of tadpoles (i saved as many as i could but i think they all died) lookn for him and he was no where in site... well anyways if the eye that is blocked from view on your snake looks as if its getn filled with blood or fogging up red i would worrry bout it...a lot...thanks for letn me remanence the days of youth...ill post a pic of slimy on nature thread sooner or later.
DONT TURN ON BRIGHT LIGHTS NEAR HIS EYES AT NIGHT THEY WILL THAKE FOREVER TO ADJUST AND PROBABLY HURT WHEN DIALATING!!!!!!!!!!!! oh and round off any sharp object that are big its just askn for self inflicted pain...keep me updated im mistified by this snake!

[mustang]

hey found it it was right in front of me!
http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/urge...ce-please.html

this is the thread with the eye prob

[drache]

they ate last night, except for one
six had trout (including Bugsy)
three had pinky strip
yup - one of them had both
hard to find worms in this heat, but I guess that's what that last hold-out wants