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    Re: erythristic?

    Quote Originally Posted by BUSHSNAKE View Post
    i think thats a bad statement, i dont consider a snake with more red to be always Erythristic, you can call it that, but i wouldnt

    That's the definition. Now, for example if a flame eastern is to be called a "erythristic flame eastern" it would have to have considerably more red than most flame easterns. I wouldn't call just any flame eastern erythristic. Furthermore, I wouldn't call a red phase radix erythristic just because most radixes aren't red. Red radixes are normal. I would only call it erythristic if that red radix had considerably more red than most red phase radixes.

    I would call a concinnus with dark red, and more of it, erythristic because it's more red than most.

    It's quite a subjective term according to definition. There's definitely room for abuse of the term.

    In related news... Why is it that concinnus are so prized for their striking orange or red and yet people are tripping over themselves to get the anery (lacking red) concinnus I have? Weird.

    Not all of these anery's lack orange pigment. Some are just highly reduced pigment. In that case they are still anerythristic. Having no red, or highly reduced red when compared to most concinnus.

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    Re: erythristic?

    a flame that is called erythristic flame is a offspring of a flame bred to an erythristic eastern and is showing both traits

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    Thanks for that explanation. Makes sense but that would mean a red radix would be called erythrisitic wouldn't it? Even if it had no more red than any other red radix. Not quite sure I can accept that use of the term.

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    Re: erythristic?

    This a a pic of a erythristic female.



    Here is a pic of the same snake as a baby.



    As was stated before, Wayne's pic is of a snake that manifests both the Ery trait and the Flame trait.

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    Re: erythristic?

    The anerythristic easterns carry a co-dominant trait if I'm not mistaken. That just might be the case with these WC anerythristic concinnus I have. Every snake I saw in that area was either black and white, or had a pale yellow stripe and just a hint of orange in the spots. Didn't see a normal orange concinnus among them.

    Is the flame gene co-dom as well or is it recessive?

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    Re: erythristic?

    Quote Originally Posted by MasSalvaje View Post
    This a a pic of a erythristic female.



    Here is a pic of the same snake as a baby.



    As was stated before, Wayne's pic is of a snake that manifests both the Ery trait and the Flame trait.

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    how much did that snake cost?
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    Re: erythristic?

    A good price guide can be found here...

    http://www.albinogartersnake.com/

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    Re: erythristic?

    Quote Originally Posted by infernalis View Post
    A good price guide can be found here...

    http://www.albinogartersnake.com/
    Thats were i check but he doesn't have regular erythristic prices
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    Re: erythristic?

    OK, I just found the answer to the last question I asked. Both the flame gene and erythristc are co-dominant.

    If that's the case, WTF are flame easterns so expensive? Breed one flame to another and you get flames. What's so hard about that?

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    Re: erythristic?

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    OK, I just found the answer to the last question I asked. Both the flame gene and erythristc are co-dominant.

    If that's the case, WTF are flame easterns so expensive? Breed one flame to another and you get flames. What's so hard about that?

    It's all about the colour. Some flames get duller as they age, some get screaming red.

    Sure it's an easy breeding project, but only a percentage of the offspring will be "high end"

    I feel very blessed that mine are cherry red and get brighter with every shed.

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