Spring Sightings

[Faunaofthenorth]

really now, haha i would have to disagree as ive caughten some easterns up here that had patterns that looked quite similar to that of the chicagos

[Faunaofthenorth]

plus what's the scientific name of the chicago garter snake??? thamnophis SIRTALIS semifasciatus, so there you have it, its very possible to have easterns and commons share similar patterns even from far away states

[ConcinusMan]

I agree.

[Faunaofthenorth]

yes exactly, but i wasnt trying to be rude was just stating that with garters, the impossible becomes the possible haha, at least in my experience

[Faunaofthenorth]

i mean i wasnt trying to be rude to bushsnake

[ConcinusMan]

I DO know about that!

Oh sorry. I think I may have caused you to misunderstand my comment. I didn't mean to offend your intelligence or knowledge but perhaps if you saw more chicago garters and easterns you would see what I'm talking about.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jdeboer152/1356772982/

Now compare that snake ^^^


to some easterns: http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos...947&si=eastern

Still say they are nothing alike?

[BUSHSNAKE]

Ive seen more Chicago Garters than anyone! Your schooling the wrong person when it comes to sirtalis and those pictures, one is clearly Chicago and the other common sirtalis

[Faunaofthenorth]

omg dude, we arent trying to school anyone we are just saying that what you are claiming is not absolute in totality, meaning its not set in stone, i have seen SIMILAR, not exact, SIMILAR garters that have markings SIMILAR to chicagos, they are part of the sirtalis family, you will find similar snakes every once in a while

[Faunaofthenorth]

well, hmm, i dont think bushsnake will ever agree with us concinnusman, oh well it was worth a try, on those two pics they are similar, although the main difference is the dark neck blotches/bands, and i have seen this, although not as many bands, but SIMILAR on a few smaller males that are here in northern minnesota every year, i also see some commons that sometimes look similar to even radix, NOT exactly, but similar

[ConcinusMan]

That's alright. He doesn't have to agree. He's entitled to his opinion. I don't want this to turn into an argument so I'll leave it alone with what I have already stated.

We're off topic anyway. Now if the weather would cooperate, we could get this thread going in the right direction.