Opinions needed

[ssssnakeluvr]

I would say they are valley garters, t s fitchi....the one with the red is hard to say for sure....but it's possible to have found an odd valley with no red.

[Steven@HumboldtHerps]

Yeah, anerythrism's out there for sure; I still thinks it's a Puget!

For anyone not certain whether or not it is legal to have snakes native to one's own current state of residence - Try checking with your local state dept of fish and game. For instance, the freshwater fishing guide put out by the California Dept of Fish and Game lists all reptiles and amphibians native to our state; it shows what you can not have, and it shows the limits and/or restrictions on what you can have. Other states have similar, less rigid, or even stricter guidelines (i.e: Washington state's no take policy). Some of the laws, especially where CB's are concerned, are a bit screwy, especially when mailed over state lines. For instance, I could buy 5 rubber boas from a breeder in a state where it's legal to breed and sell them, but legally, within the state of California, I could only keep 2 of them; that's California's limit at any one time - dead or alive. By law if I have 2 legal rubber boas that breed, any excess boas have to be turned in to fish and game to then be turned over to a zoo-like establishment, school, or be destroyed. The only native snakes you are allowed to breed in CA are CA Kings, Gophers, and Rosy Boas (and then only with special permit!). And the states are all different. Crazy world! Silly people!