New Member- Just Got a Garter

[Zephyr]

Those two both lack the sharply defined bars and they have the typical sirtalis sirtalis spots along the lower margin of the lateral stripe.

Notice on her specimen how rows 1 and 2 mix, especially anteriorly, and how further down the body the black coloration becomes prominent on row one. I have no doubts that it's an eastern.

[Stefan-A]

It has been noticed, and it's not uncommon in parietalis. I have no doubt that it may not necessarily be an eastern.

[crzy_kevo]

hey there and welcome to the forum
enclosure looks like a lot of work but very nice indeed and your garter is beautiful too

[adamanteus]

Stefan, Kyle..... I guess we'll never really know which one of you is right. To quote Rossman et al (and Sjoerd)...

"This genus has long stood in the minds of herpetologists as a synonym for chaos..."

[Zephyr]

Stefan, Kyle..... I guess we'll never really know which one of you is right. To quote Rossman et al (and Sjoerd)...

"This genus has long stood in the minds of herpetologists as a synonym for chaos..."

I can see World War III coming out of this... Let's all agree it's T. sirtalis. ^^

[Stefan-A]

I wonder if Rachel will find that quote useful..

[adamanteus]

I wonder if Rachel will find that quote useful..

I'll PM her what it really is!

[Stefan-A]

I'll PM her what it really is!

A duck?

[racheletc]

There are arguments like this all the time on the T forums. Choas indeed...

T sirtalis sounds good to me

[Odie]

Hi, from Oregon, Rachel