Appropriate size difference for garters that will be kept together

[guidofatherof5]

This is classic male tail. South of the vent the width stays the same on this snake for as much as a 10 scale count.

[Simland]

I don't know whether to be glad because that means I might be able to put them together if the other one is indeed a male, as you guys thought, or sad because I really wanted a female...

I'll try to get a better picture of the other one this weekend...on my balcony, where I'll hopefully be able to stop down my camera more, to get a cleaner picture in spite of its restlessness.

[Simland]

Thanks for the description. It sounds like a much better one that the "swelling" one. In the future, instead of looking for swelling to identify a male, I'll look for tapering close to the vent to identify a female.

[guidofatherof5]

Check out this thread. It will teach/show you what to look for when sexing them.

http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/bree...xing-pics.html

[Simland]

I wasn't able to take better pictures last weekend, when I had people over. As soon as I can, I'll try to take some myself with a tripod.

[Albert Clark]

Thanks for the description. It sounds like a much better one that the "swelling" one. In the future, instead of looking for swelling to identify a male, I'll look for tapering close to the vent to identify a female.

Preliminarily, pics 1 and 2 strike me as female in shape and tapering from a frontal view first and then lateral view second. The definitive way to sex a reptile is the "probing" and or "popping" methods. Both methods require the help of someone experienced in the procedures.