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    Re: Not sure what's wrong..

    Ok the red is just a reflection from the red item on the table. It might just be me, but it looks like something is restricting about an inch or so above the vent. Are you a 100% sure it couldn't be a partial stuck shed or something. Take a top pic of the whole snake if you can.
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    Re: Not sure what's wrong..

    Yeah, it does look like something is restricting just above the vent there... Even if this is related to a stuck shed you may still want to get a fecal float done. That's how it started with mine; a stuck shed that was weirdly soft underneath.
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    Re: Not sure what's wrong..

    Are you referring to that line dead center in his belly an inch or so above the vent? He's always had those all over most of his belly just its more apparent there due to the angle creating a shadow of it. I don't think its stuck shed because he has shed four times since I posted about them a while ago and they've all been fine. Or are you talking about something else, such as those dark lines.

    His shed was complete as of my knowledge but regardless I'll try and see if I can get it off. What is concerning to me is that area above his vent is the spot I sometimes see him holding off the floor along with his tail these past few days so it would make some sense. I'm hoping that that is the cause of the problems.
    Should I just do the thing for the eyecaps where I leave him in a tub overnight?


    Edit: I just watched him drinking from his dish. A minute later he slithered into his hide and spat all the water up. I get that they can do this when startled or picked up when they're swallowing the water but he randomly just spat up a whole puddle of water. What is going on with my snake

    I have been examining his past shed skin over and over again and it is totally complete. I have no idea what is doing on with his underside
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    Re: Not sure what's wrong..

    Spitting up water was another sign of the parasite mine had! If I'm right and that's what's going on it'll get a lot worse pretty quickly; I made the mistake of waiting too long and it damaged her system. The similarities between this and what mine had are eerie.

    If you've never preserved a fecal sample before, you can wrap the sample in a damp paper towel and put that inside a plastic bag and keep it in your refrigerator for a couple days. That way you have time to either call your vet and see if he'll do the fecal float for a snake or find a herp vet.
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    Re: Not sure what's wrong..

    Okay, definitely getting it looked at. I wish he would eat for me so I can get a fecal sample! I've been a bit stingy with cleaning and there's a little tiny smear on the leaf of one of his plants. Its been sitting for a few days at least. Would that be good enough?

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    Re: Not sure what's wrong..

    I'm not an expert on fecal samples, but I'm pretty sure it has to be preserved fresh. I don't think it works if it dries out (hence the wet paper towel).
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    Re: Not sure what's wrong..

    Ahh OK.
    Any advice on force feeding or something? I'm only wanting to do it so that he poops and then I can get a sample.

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    Re: Not sure what's wrong..

    I wouldn't force-feed. If he's sick and already stressed, my guess is you'd just end up with the food coming back the same way as the water did. Maybe try as many different foods as possible. Mine suddenly started refusing everything but fish (when she would actually take food) when she got sick.

    He probably won't go too long without either eating or pooping for you to get a sample in time. I'd only recommend force-feeding an adult as a very desperate last option; if not it could easily make things worse.
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    Re: Not sure what's wrong..

    Force feeding is a bad idea at this point. You might be able to stimulate some movement by giving it a few soaks in some very shallow luke warm water and then gently massaging the belly, but be very cautious while the snake is in the wter if the snake is still lethargic.
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    Re: Not sure what's wrong..

    Alright. When I get home I'll try a soak

    I've offered him fish and Nightcrawlers today and he was absolutely uninterested. I'll keep trying though. I'll buy several different kinds and hope he takes to one before the parasites damage him

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