2016 pastel het granite....

[Albert Clark]

sorry to hear you lost one. what do you mean it was decomposed?

Thanks again Tom. The deceased was a pastel and not a granite.

[Albert Clark]

how did you get albino from pastel het granite x same? they both had to also be het albino. so they were pastel double hets? and only one was produced?

Not necessarily Tom. I think this is more related to what you said later about the polymorphism in garters or it could just be a random mutation.

[Tommytradix]

Not necessarily Tom. I think this is more related to what you said later about the polymorphism in garters or it could just be a random mutation.

albino is a recessive. no connection to polymorphism/polygenic

[Albert Clark]

albino is a recessive. no connection to polymorphism/polygenic

I know that, but the animal is also harboring a codominant gene in pastel. The parents are both Pastel het granite. No albino gene in either of them.

[Tommytradix]

so how did you get albinos?? there has to be albino in both....

[Tommytradix]

you cant produce albinos without the albino gene

[Albert Clark]

so how did you get albinos?? there has to be albino in both....

There probably was a random mutation that produced the albinism. Negative.

you cant produce albinos without the albino gene

That's not true.

[Tommytradix]

please explain....

[Deac77]

There has to be a albino gene on both sides down the line some place, a genetic mutation just doesn't pop up, and if it does I bet the university I'm at for herpetology would buy the pair from you to double check. This would be one of the first ever witnessed "genetic mutations" to occur in a captive setting.

[Tommytradix]

the most popular/most cb bred checkered morph is albino. so its not a far stretch to say they were bred to albinos/pastels along the line somewhere. also pastels are extremely common in the wild. if a mutation did occur in the baby it would be het not visual. for it to be visual the mutation would of had to occur in both adults first to produce a albino.