I'm bummed...

**adamanteus** · 05-21-2008, 03:59 PM

Yes, Kyle. You can help them out of the sack, but to be honest if they can't do that for themselves what chance do they have of coping with more demanding tasks?

**Lori P** · 05-21-2008, 06:53 PM

oh, man, that does suck, Don. But, I will say, your one little boy is a really handsome and healthy looking little fella... keep us posted!!

**aSnakeLovinBabe** · 05-21-2008, 09:56 PM

you know sometimes... it almost seems like one will come out of the mom, but not be "awake" yet... its like they are still asleep! sometimes I poke them a little if I am around when they are being born and that usually stirs them to break the sac. if it doesnt I pick them up and rub them with the palms of my hands presed lightly together. you would be surprised at how many would-be stillborns wake up when you do that!!

**Snaky** · 05-22-2008, 01:33 AM

That's so sad to hear, Don. I hope you have more luck with the other female...

**Loren** · 05-22-2008, 01:43 AM

Don, you said something about no pre-lay shed, could they have been prematurely born?

**Tori** · 05-22-2008, 03:11 AM

I was wondering that myself Loren. It is so sad to hear about the babies, but how is the mother doing?

**ssssnakeluvr** · 05-22-2008, 12:22 PM

well....don't think they were premature...all appeared normal and appropriiately sized...timing was right too.....not sure what went wrong. you can help them out of the sac...have done that before. but this time I came in and found them all dead....didn't catch her giving birth.