!!garters illegal in Ontario!!

[GarterGirl]

ILLEGAL TO KEEP A GARTER?
THAT'S CRAZY!
THEY'RE HARMLESS!
THAT'S THE WORST LAW I HAVE EVER HEARD OF!

Good thing they don't have that law here!
phew

[Lulu Bennett]

ILLEGAL TO KEEP A GARTER?
THAT'S CRAZY!
THEY'RE HARMLESS!
THAT'S THE WORST LAW I HAVE EVER HEARD OF!

Good thing they don't have that law here!
phew

mikhaila i think its more to protect them from being taken out of the wild in large numbers leaving the wild population crippled and then the best chance of seeing the native species is in tanks... i think its a good idea to be honest. i personlly dont agree with WC snakes being kept as pets. they have freedon and space. im not having a dig at thoes that do thats your porogative, its just my opinion.

[Josh]

O w/c snakes only o ok thats good by me.

[GarterGuy]

So for me to have an eastern is illegal?????
and yes im interested in the herp laws!

No, it's not illegal. You can have ONE native herp that's not on the special interest list.....you just can't have two.....that were wild caught. You can have as many as you want that are captive bred, but you need to have documentation stating that they are captive bred snakes. I'll be posting the herp laws for PA on here soon. It's several pages long and I'm trying to filter out the stuff that doesn't deal with snakes (ie. snapping turtles and such).

Roy

[Josh]

thanks i get it now. Ill be looking for it.

[drache]

I've had wild caught snakes and I have some now
most of them adjust over time, but some I end up forever feeling sorry for
I don't think it's a good idea to take them from the wild and I think it'd be great if just enough were taken to develop strong captive bred populations
perhaps snakes in the future could come with breeder papers just like pure-bred dogs, cats and horses - not so much for the "class" factor as is common with those species, but so that we can keep protected species as long as we can document that they were CB

[enigma200316]

All Snakes Were Wild At One Time Or There Would Be No Captive Snakes!!! So In Some Way Everyone Who Has A Herp Has In Some Way, Be It Wild Caught Now Or Threw Decendent Lines Has A Wild Caught Snake............

[drache]

All Snakes Were Wild At One Time Or There Would Be No Captive Snakes!!! So In Some Way Everyone Who Has A Herp Has In Some Way, Be It Wild Caught Now Or Threw Decendent Lines Has A Wild Caught Snake............

that is true
we were all wild at one time
many habitats used to be intact and undisturbed at one time
at one time it never occurred to folks to catch large amounts of snakes in the wild and sell them for five bucks a piece at their local expo, because it's an easy way to make a buck
times have changed
as much as I don't like the laws, I even less like the people who made it necessary to pass laws like that

[KITKAT]

that is true
we were all wild at one time
many habitats used to be intact and undisturbed at one time
at one time it never occurred to folks to catch large amounts of snakes in the wild and sell them for five bucks a piece at their local expo, because it's an easy way to make a buck
times have changed
as much as I don't like the laws, I even less like the people who made it necessary to pass laws like that

Dogs and cats were wild animals once too. Just because it was 2000 + years ago does not mean they weren't. So following this logic, ALL animals are wild, and are not domesticated. LOL!

[enigma200316]

My opinion was simply to say that it is wrong to say I dislike people catching wild snakes because thats how you got your CB snakes, so in saying that, we are all guilty of having wild caught snakes....in some way or another!!!!!!