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    Re: Technical "Morph" question

    You didn't lose me anywhere...

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    Re: Technical "Morph" question

    Selective breeding does not occur in nature; it's only done by man. That is if you accept the given scientifc definition:

    "Dictionary » S » Selective breeding Selective breeding

    Definition
    noun
    The intentional breeding of organisms with desirable trait in an attempt to produce offspring with similar desirable characteristics or with improved traits.

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    It involves breeding techniques such as inbreeding, linebreeding and outcrossing.



    Selective breeding - definition from Biology-Online.org


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    Re: Technical "Morph" question

    Quote Originally Posted by dekaybrown View Post
    You didn't lose me anywhere...
    Well, if I need to elaborate something, then I obviously lost you somewhere.

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    Re: Technical "Morph" question

    I'm okay, now, Stefan. I've read and re-read and I'm still sticking with what I believe to be true.
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    Re: Technical "Morph" question

    Quote Originally Posted by Garter_Gertie View Post
    Selective breeding does not occur in nature; it's only done by man.
    I do agree with you on this, selective breeding does not occur in nature (if mankind is excluded from the definition of nature). Unless you see it from the perspective that all we are doing, is making a mutualistic relationship possible. We're not the only species doing that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garter_Gertie View Post
    I'm okay, now, Stefan. I've read and re-read and I'm still sticking with what I believe to be true.
    You may still however be believing in something that isn't true.

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    Re: Technical "Morph" question

    Here's another site: Natural Selection

    Natural selection - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Technical "Morph" question

    sorry, so many replies so quick....

    Love hot discussions

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    Re: Technical "Morph" question

    Stefan, I think you, also are confusing natural selection with selective breeding. Previously you'd not mentioned humans - who are very selective - and we were discussing snakes.

    Has the topic changed or the equation been added to? Humans, yes are selective, or I think subjective, when partnering. I think we need to not split hairs and tangent. We were talking about snakes and their morphs; humans at that time were not involved.

    Unless I've missed some new idea on the subject - which is possible - I still feel what I think to be true, is true.
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    Re: Technical "Morph" question

    Never mind!
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    Re: Technical "Morph" question

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan-A View Post
    Well, if I need to elaborate something, then I obviously lost you somewhere.

    No Not LOST, confused...

    Lets just say a colony of 1000 snakes, just how many of them are going to be albino??

    Now of that thousand, lets be generous and say there are 4 albinos in there, that is only a 1 in 250 that are albino.

    OK DUH I do feel a bit dumb, the resultant hets will raise that number up, and left unmolested by man, the numbers will increase over time.

    Yet once again Stefan makes a great point!

    Anything further will have to wait, I need to go make some money....

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