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    I have a condition! RedSidedSPR's Avatar
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    Re: What species is this?

    Quote Originally Posted by chris-uk View Post
    Thamnophis radix haydeni
    Stop it!! not again...

    My guess is radix too, but just Thamnophis radix, there's no other Plains garter

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    "PM Boots For Custom Title" chris-uk's Avatar
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    Re: What species is this?

    That's what I get for looking at outdated info. I'm learning that subspecies are a grey area, some Thamnophis have recognised subspecies still, others don't.

    On the ID front, I can't imagine a scale count is particularly easy on a live, moving snake. Is there a technique to counting scales? Maybe a set of photos stitched together?
    Chris
    T. marcianus, T. e. cuitzeoensis, T. cyrtopsis, T. radix, T. s. infernalis, T. s. tetrataenia

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    Mr Thamnophis ssssnakeluvr's Avatar
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    Re: What species is this?

    thamnophis radix.... not intergrade, not haydeni (the subspecies doesn't exit, just color variation of mmormal radix).

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