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    Re: Interesting locked up pair of easterns

    Sweet!!! Are any of your florida albinos paradox?
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    Re: Interesting locked up pair of easterns

    No paradox, why do you have one?

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    Re: Interesting locked up pair of easterns

    The pair that i have are getting black specks all over them every week they are getting more and more it looks like they are paradox. If i get babies out of my axanthic / anery female and raise the babies up to breed it would be nice to produce paradox snows.
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    Re: Interesting locked up pair of easterns

    Very cool pairing Jeff, I wish you the best on these!!!
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    Re: Interesting locked up pair of easterns

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUESIRTALIS View Post
    The pair that i have are getting black specks all over them every week they are getting more and more it looks like they are paradox. If i get babies out of my axanthic / anery female and raise the babies up to breed it would be nice to produce paradox snows.
    I thought one of mine was paradox but then it wiped off with a moist paper towel, likely was a little dirt from the dirt shoot, lol. Not doubting yours but would love to see pics of what you are refering to, please. Did you get yours from Eddie or a new line? Paradox in albinos is often not inheritable as has been shown in other snake species, but not to say it can't happen with garters, certainly would be an awsome trait if you could pass it predictably.

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    Re: Interesting locked up pair of easterns

    I thought the same thing but it's not wiping off. The female is in shed right now so if it is dirt it will come off then. It's hard for me to say because i just got them a couple of weeks ago, but it sure does look permanent.
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    Re: Interesting locked up pair of easterns

    Jeff,
    I just keep coming back to this post to look at that pic, damn those are some nice animals, I can't imagine how nice that combo will look when all the hard work is done!

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    Re: Interesting locked up pair of easterns

    Thanks Jason, yeah I'm optimistically hoping that the next generation will produce some near solid bright highlighter orange snakes, but who knows what the albino will do since it's T-type it may completely mask the orange, but thats what makes it fun to try anyway. I think florida ery flames produced from this breeding might not be half bad looking either with the wicked pattern of the florida combined with the red/orange, shrug, hopefully she will produce some babies to get that answer, lots of hurdles to get over though.

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    Re: Interesting locked up pair of easterns

    Awsome project! I am trying to breed melanistic x Florida blue albino in hopes of producing a cleaner looking eastern snow in the future. One of the albino females I am using is heavily paradox and she also has the most blue out of all the hold backs that I have kept. Years ago I had success breeding melanistic x Florida but all the babies that I kept died before I had a chance to breed them back to each other.
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    Re: Interesting locked up pair of easterns

    Yeah Eddie thats a really great project as well, I would guess that will produce a nice and clean pinkish/white snow similar to the Iowa radix and red-sided snow. Hope that female produces babies for you. I think we will need to do some tradin' this summer, what do you think?

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