Inbreeding

[jere000]

I understand trying to prove out a new morph but i mean inbreeding over and over again.With the two strains of albino boa that I'm talking about you breed them and you get normals het for nothing so i was wondering if anything happened similar in other snakes or what.At a biological level if there is deformities in a litter after 2 or 3 generations of inbreeding then the whole entire litter is weak not just the ones that show deformities.

[mb90078]

I don't think inbreeding once in garters proves to be overly risky or harmful.

I could be wrong, but I thought that with most "complex" animals, repeated inbreeding tends to produce bad results (even if alongside the desired traits), regardless of whether the group chosen is "weak" or not.

[MasSalvaje]

I understand trying to prove out a new morph but i mean inbreeding over and over again.With the two strains of albino boa that I'm talking about you breed them and you get normals het for nothing so i was wondering if anything happened similar in other snakes or what.At a biological level if there is deformities in a litter after 2 or 3 generations of inbreeding then the whole entire litter is weak not just the ones that show deformities.

Like I mentioned before, the reason that the two strains of boas are not compatible has nothing to do with inbreeding! You need to understand how the genetics work before you start looking at why they are not compatible. When you breed a Kahl with a Sharp the babies are a normal phenotype but heterozygous for both strains. Richard gave the same example previously with the Iowa and Nebraska strains of the Plains garter.

That said you are right about continued inbreeding. A good example of that is the SanFran garter population in Europe. If you have a limited gene pool you will eventually run into an issue known as population bottlenecking, which drastically increases susceptibility to conditions that may arise, increasing the chances of widespread mutation, disease, and even extinction.

The disadvantages of inbreeding apply much more to a population than they do to a specific individual.

-Thomas

[HazAnga]

I have never, but i have only started to breed, found a male and was fortunate to find 2 females, which i though was male and female. so i lucked out. But with the babies i got this year I've been planning on breeding one of the normals which looks like it could be a hypo or something, it's lighter marks are lighter then the rest, so in other words i'm trying to bring one that trait more so. But I'm not sure as to if it's a male or female yet. But I'm only willing to try it once, then I'd plan on going back to breeding my regular trio.
I think it's just easier and less time consuming to skip the inbreeding because of time to let them mature so a year or two, I git anxious and just want results, no matter how good they look there all beautiful to me.