Meet the gang!

[kibakiba]

Haha, Mama likes sleeping in my hair also... I hope I'm lucky enough not to have snake poo in my hair! I cant imagine it being a good contitioner

[Faunaofthenorth]

the first snake looks quite similar to my sirtalis annectans...is it??? or are you not sure

[Spankenstyne]

Those are beauties!

[ssssnakeluvr]

they are ordinoides

[kibakiba]

I've only ever ben told that they're common garter snakes or easterns, but it's hard to tell with all the different kinds :P All I can say is they were caught in Washington state near Granite Falls

[Faunaofthenorth]

oh ok that clears it up ha, they sometimes can look quite similar

[kibakiba]

Yeah, it kind of explains why I don't even know what they are I know there are ordinoides here, but somehow it doesn't seem like they are. I had that red and brown garter that looked like an ordinoides, but I think that these snakes are just the common garter snakes Runt may be different, as he's got a different look to him than the common garters I've seen. I can add some more pictures if anyone wants to help identify them! Snakey is about to shed, so I'd have to wait until he's done for his picture. I don't want to disturb the grumpy boy

[ssssnakeluvr]

"common" garters are easterns, nowhere near where you live. those are definitely ordinoides.

here's 2 of my ordinoides

[ConcinusMan]

The only other garter snakes that might be found in that part of Washington are so different than those that we can rule those out. Northwestern garters (Thamnophis ordinoides) are the most common garter snake in their distribution range. Highly variable even within the same population. (polymorphism)

Here's a sampling of them, all found in the same location in SW WA:

[Faunaofthenorth]

yea i only, i was only comparing the similarity in the redstriped ordinoides that you had with the coloration of my annectans, they do look quite similar but obviously not an annectans, does anyone else have an annectans???