Has anyone had problems with don

[ssssnakeluvr]

I just got back and read this....I am very sorry. I sent you a pm. I did ship overnight and use a cold pack...not sure what happened. the other pair I shipped arrived fine. I will wait for a cooler period to replace them

[gartermorphs]

thanks don i have no idea why this keeps on happening but all the baby are getting a proper burial by my kid brother!

[Atlas511]

I know its a sad time for you Beth, but Don sent me 1.1 Nebraska albinos today... both look great and are doing well. Its was a HOT day for sure but the cool packs did the job.

[Hollis_Steed]

Don delivered to me a beautiful little T.radix and he is in full health and a real wiggle worm. I'm sure it was the unfortunate heat and certainly not anything Don could have done differently. Sorry for your loss.

[ConcinusMan]

I see a lot of people who are NOT breeders get all paranoid about shipping garters in the winter. It is far safer for a garter to get cold, even close to freezing for a day than it is for one to get over 100 degrees for even a minute and that's a fact.

I got Amy from Don and it was January and quite cold. She arrived safely. Your problem could be the heat, but it could also be really bad handling somewhere along the route, such as direct sun, unpressurized cargo plane, etc. I'd be willing to bet that the package sat in sun and heat for several hours in your town, before actual delivery to your house, and it only takes 5 minutes for a baby garter to die from heat.

If one of his cold/heat packs leaked, I would suspect unpressurized cargo. Even though the carrier uses pressurized planes, sometimes they contract out and the contractor does not.

[ssssnakeluvr]

thanks everyone....been very depressing for me....I feel bad when this happens.... had been a good day up until I got the message...was delivering another garter to Jeff (Hollis_Steed) and gathering a couple more wanderings for an upcoming animal planet (will post about that later ) film when I got a call from Steve... kinda put a damper on my day.
Beth, the last pm you sent didn't have a message, just all the quotes from the messages before.

[ConcinusMan]

Sorry to hear this Don. Especially when certain morphs/sexes are in such short supply.

Has it been hot where you are? the recipient's location?

I will definitely have to consider the weather from my house, to yours, and everything in between before shipping your snakes to you. This is scary. I don't want your snakes arriving dead either. It's not so much the human disappointment as it is, the loss of great snakes. I hope this all works out and there are no more dead arrivals.

[Sputnik]

I got immediately defensive when I saw the name of this thread... despite my sporadic appearances I guess I feel protective of my more regular fellow forumers. Maybe it's an idea to change the title as this really isn't about a problem with Don but from the sounds of things down to the hot weather and possibly bad handling by the shipping company?

So sorry, you had such a shock when the little ones arrived! So sad!

[Mommy2many]

So sorry to hear about your recent shipping losses! I recently asked Don for advice on shipping for my first time and took his advice to the letter and safely shipped my baby from Connecticut to the state of Washington the beginning of this week. Temps here were warm-humid. I spoke with the guy sending the package out for me and told him it was a live reptile. Turns out he ships and receives frogs and lizards, so extra precaution was taken on my end of things! I-heart-sneakie-snakes (Crystal) was expecting the baby next morning and she was delivered first thing.

As Richard stated, it most likely was poor handling by the carrier in excessive temps. Both Crystal and I did not sleep that night, worrying about the baby arriving safely.

[ConcinusMan]

I recently asked Don for advice on shipping for my first time and took his advice to the letter and safely shipped my baby from Connecticut to the state of Washington the beginning of this week.

I too took what Don told me (and by his example) and safely shipped from Washington State, all the way to Shannon in PA. But that was before the hot weather had arrived anywhere. It was still cool.