san fran babies :)

[ssssnakeluvr]

yea, they won't allow us to have them period.... if you kjnow of a way to get them that would be awesome!! even with documentation that they came from overseas, they still won't allow them AND the shipper also could get in trouble.

[infernalis]

Not to mention that PROVING that those papers are for the snakes in question would be a tough cookie without say for instance a DNA profile attached.

If an endangered species is illegal for private parties to keep, it's straight across the board simple as that.

[viper]

thank you all for your kind replies, i offered them chopped earthworms and it would appear that most have eaten these. there are the odd couple that have not yet started but they have good weight. i will keep offering a bowl of these as up to now they will only take food if it is moving..

once they are feeding well i will mix in some chopped pinkies and some fish and hope they will take to this

as far as i was aware also it is illegal to posess san frans in the us as they are a protected species, id be interested in seeing any evidence to suggest otherwise though

[infernalis]

thank you all for your kind replies, i offered them chopped earthworms and it would appear that most have eaten these. there are the odd couple that have not yet started but they have good weight. i will keep offering a bowl of these as up to now they will only take food if it is moving..

once they are feeding well i will mix in some chopped pinkies and some fish and hope they will take to this

as far as i was aware also it is illegal to posess san frans in the us as they are a protected species, id be interested in seeing any evidence to suggest otherwise though

Congratulations on getting some to eat.

[sschind]

oops, hadnt got round to editing my details yet, im actually in the uk

what shall i do if they show no interest? i have tried both of the above and non of them were interested. shall i wait a little longer until they have shed? (they shed once they were born but not again since)

good thing otherwise you may be getting a knock on your door from F&W.

Congrats on the babies.

[Odie]

Hi, from Oregon, viper

[viper]

ok, now the question is how do i get them to eat food that is not moving ie pinkie strips and fish strips.... most will eat earthworms but i have been advised against feeding these as they contain very little nutrition? x

thanks xx

[ConcinusMan]

Earthworms are fine. They just not as an exclusive source of food, and they have to be fed a lot, and often. Most of my snakes will eat f/t pinkies and silversides as well as live fish or night crawlers so I don't really know but you can try cutting a few night crawlers in halves and putting them in a dish with pinkies. Shannon showed a trick a while back on how to trick worm eaters into eating pinkies so maybe she can chime in and help you out.

[guidofatherof5]

ok, now the question is how do i get them to eat food that is not moving ie pinkie strips and fish strips.... most will eat earthworms but i have been advised against feeding these as they contain very little nutrition? x

thanks xx

I would have to take issue with the "very little nutrition" in worms statement.
The main food source for my radixes and the wild ones is night crawlers.
Night crawlers might be mostly water but whatever else is in there must be very good for garters. The radixes in my area grow big on them.
I feed 70% worms and 30% pinkies with a little fish thrown in as a treat once in awhile.

[Hollis_Steed]

Steve,
I like the sound of 30% pinkies, 70% nightcrawlers, with a fish thrown in for good luck! It just sound right to me. How often do you feed and how many nightcrawlers does an adult eat at a feeding?