California red-sided

[ConcinusMan]

What a BEAUTIFUL animal!

No doubt about that.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

Here are mine!

[guidofatherof5]

AWESOMEMORE, please

[ConcinusMan]

That's what I'm talkin' about.^^^ (looks rather annoyed) The viper impression, some rather audible hissing, and downright blood-drawing bites is what I experienced from those snakes in the wild but that really only applies to my rather rude (to them) interruption of their activities. I mean, they have no problem letting you know when they are irritated. Once I handle them for a few minutes, they calm down. Most of the wild one's I have handled were the blue phase, like that one.

What I'm saying applies to wild infernalis. I have no idea if captive one's are the same way. I don't know about other people, but I admire a "spunky" snake that puts up a show and a fight when caught.

"We're workin' with him, but..."

[lokai99]

I love when snakes do that viper head flattening impression. GOSH those are pretty snakes.

[ConcinusMan]

That's what I'm talkin' about.^^^ (looks rather annoyed) The viper impression, some rather audible hissing....

The snake is pretty impressive too, right Steve?

[lokai99]

Hey i'm sitting down so I won't have far to fall when I faint.....so can someone tell me what a snake like that goes for? There are so many choices....I thought I had it narrowed down.

[ConcinusMan]

I hope you're not confusing red sided garters(like the ones at the dens in canada) for CA red sided garters. Sure, they are both Thamnophis sirtalis subspecies, but not the same. They are no more the same as an eastern garter is to a Oregon red spotted.

I've even seen some breeders call flame easterns, "red sided". Why? Just because they have red on their sides? pttt!!!

Even more disturbing is the confusion when it comes to new breeders. They are crossing T. s. fitchii, T. s. infernalis, T. s. concinnus,T. s. pickeringii, and any number of other garters with red on their sides. You sometimes never know what you'll get.

[infernalis]

I admire a "spunky" snake that puts up a show and a fight when caught.

Mine are CBB from Scott, and they will tag my hand every time.

Love it! attitude is their middle name.

[Spankenstyne]

Great shots posted folks. I hope to add some infernalis to the group one day as well, just love 'em.