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    Re: been a while

    Quote Originally Posted by bkhuff1s View Post
    What's the jet black one?

    Welcome back, awesome pictures.... I too would like to know what kind that jet black one is!!
    Stephanie




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    Re: been a while

    melanistic eastern

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    Re: been a while

    Quote Originally Posted by ssssnakeluvr View Post
    melanistic eastern
    Melanistic vagrans. Rhea guessed it and he confirmed it a few posts ago.

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    Re: been a while

    really?? haven't seen a melanistic vagrans with white on the chin.....

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    Re: been a while

    Saying vagrans, i cant be 100% its just what it was bought as, they also had other dubious lables on some of the snakes.

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    Re: been a while

    Count the supralabial scales. 7 on both sides and it's probably sirtalis, 8 on at least one side and it's probably vagrans.

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    Re: been a while

    I also thought/presumed it was a melanistic sirtalis when I saw the white scales around the throat and chin. I'd be interested to hear the result of the supralabial scale count.
    James.

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    Re: been a while

    my guess (and that's really all it was) was based on the fact that every melanistic sirtalis I've ever seen photos of, had a lot more white at the throat, and this garter looks like there's just some speckles
    but I've never seen any melanistic garters in the flesh, so guessing is all i can do
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    Re: been a while

    Very true, Rhea. The white specking is much reduced on this one. We'll see how the count comes out.
    James.

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    Re: been a while

    wow that melanistic has AWESOME EYES!!!!
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