redecorated

[crzy_kevo]

well im looking to try and get babies that have georges' rusty body and that high red on the sides

[anji1971]

Just don't rush it, Kev.
Breeding is a big undertaking. I've become pretty comfy with my snakes, but I still don't want to attempt brumation and breeding.
Although by the time your soon to arrive babies grow big enough, you should be prepared fairly well. I'm just not that confident for myself!

[crzy_kevo]

i understand

would be an interesting project eventually

[anji1971]

Definitely. And hopefully someday there will be more demand for them here. One of my bigger concerns is being left with a pile of babies you can't sell or trade, and you really don't want to release all those captive born and bred babies out into the wild. It could get out of control very easily.

[infernalis]

"Breeding is a big undertaking"

I'm sorry but she was already gravid. Breeding would constitute the placing of a male with a female with the intent to produce offspring.

This is more of an observed birthing.

BTW Kev, I surely hope that stero is never turned on, the vibrations from the speakers is not good.

The snakes may be deaf in a sense, but that woofer will stress the living dog doo out of your snake.

[zooplan]

@Kev
thank you for sharing the picture of the bucket,
I´ve never seen a tank like that before.
@ Wayne
we had a big discussion about the meaning of the correlate to "breed" in Germany especially the meaning for garter keepers in comparrison to (maybe) the word "increase".

This is my result:
A breed has the aim to get better offspring than the forefathers were,
so you should reproduce for some generations or be part of such a project untill you can really claim to be a breeder.

BTW: German and English words often have a different spectrum of meanings so I can´t allway find the best translation for my thoughts

[Stefan-A]

In Finnish we often use different words for breeding and simply having animals reproduce. Breeding would imply that you have a programme of some sort, which isn't the case when you just have them reproduce, even if you are trying to produce a morph by combining traits.

But people do quite often use the word "breed" to describe having an animal produce offspring. But in this case, I definitely wouldn't call it breeding.

[drache]

nice pics, Kevin
was it hard to cut the window into that bucket?

In Finnish we often use different words for breeding and simply having animals reproduce. Breeding would imply that you have a programme of some sort, which isn't the case when you just have them reproduce, even if you are trying to produce a morph by combining traits.

But people do quite often use the word "breed" to describe having an animal produce offspring. But in this case, I definitely wouldn't call it breeding.

here the word breeder has a wide range of meanings
it can even refer to humans that can't control their reproductive urges for long enough to use birth control, or even by gay people to refer to heterosexuals
I don't think serious breeders (with a plan) are differentiated here and it's possible that they're only a small percentage of those who "breed" in a more general sense
even people that are considered professional breeders don't necessarily have what I think of as an ethical approach - many of them are just into making a buck whichever way they can
it doesn't help that we live in a disposable culture and people are not encouraged to think about what becomes of their stuff down the line
by extension (and habit) that often gets applied to live beings
sorry about the small rant

[anji1971]

"Breeding is a big undertaking"

I'm sorry but she was already gravid. Breeding would constitute the placing of a male with a female with the intent to produce offspring.

This is more of an observed birthing.

The statement about breeding being a big undertaking was in reference to Kevin's long-term plans to actually breed some. Not about the gravid female he already has.

[adamanteus]

To me, a 'breeder' would be someone who was producing snakes (or whatever) in large numbers for resale and profit, and may not even have a particular interest in the genus. Although I have a growing collection of Garters and I hope some of them will reproduce in my care, I wouldn't ever want to be thought of as 'a breeder'.
I would consider it a derogatory term.