Help with ID please...

[todaelaguadelmar]

We found it ressembled a lot to T. sirtralis sirtralis and a little to T. radix, i don´t think it looks like T. marcianus because it hasn´t a darker neck. (those i´ve seen them before), i ´ll try to get more pics. soon.
I know Mexico isn´t a native place for T. sirtralis sirtralis and T. radix, that´s why it´s so confusing, and yes, it´s not easy to move species between countries, there are lots of sanitary and conservation issues.

[todaelaguadelmar]

It's a WC individual?

What does it means a WC individual?

[adamanteus]

WC = wild caught.

[enigma200316]

I to from the pick think it is a T. marcianus, but clearer picks would be great if possible...............

[adamanteus]

Sarahi, can you take a mid-body scale count?

[todaelaguadelmar]

thanks a lor adamanteus.

[todaelaguadelmar]

how can i do that? the mid-body scale count?

[adamanteus]

[todaelaguadelmar]

Interesting.....but, where exactly? will it be the same all over the body? Should i measure it and do it exactly on tne middle?
thanks James.

[adamanteus]

No, about half way down his body, where he is the thickest.
It is enough to count from the dorsal mid-line scale to (and including) the final large scale before the ventral scutes. From this you can work out the count... the one in the drawing above would have a count of 19.... you only count the dorsal scale once, then 9 down either side.