Thiamin deficiency video (seizures)

[Zephyr]

is there a real list with all the good and bad foods? i dont want that to happen to me...

Technically all living organisms have thiaminase. Just in different ratios. Generally, cyprinids will have higher levels of it than other fish.

[adamanteus]

Generally, cyprinids will have higher levels of it than other fish.

I think you should elucidate, for those of us who don't 'Google', Kyle!

[Zephyr]

I think you should elucidate, for those of us who don't 'Google', Kyle!

Members of the cyprinid family are more fatty, oily fish, including carp, goldfish, minnows, etc.
Surprisingly, danios and white clouds are in this family.

[snakeman]

I have a juvie fl. eastern that is going thru this right now.I was feeding rosy reds.I guess around five months straight.It would not eat anything else.A couple of weeks ago It started corkscrewing when I picked it up.So the next two times I fed it I pinkie pumped.It does'nt corkscrew anymore.Its head is tilted sometimes,But is moving around way better.Out of about a hundred snakes this is the only one I have had do this.

[Stefan-A]

Members of the cyprinid family are more fatty, oily fish, including carp, goldfish, minnows, etc.
Surprisingly, danios and white clouds are in this family.

Cyprinid fish are indeed the worst sources of thiaminase. I used to feed certain species to my snakes, but I stopped the second I read that fish belonging to this family were loaded with the enzyme.

[Snake lover 3-25]

how many at a time and how often are minnows able to be put into their diet safely?

[adamanteus]

Just don't use them, if you have the option.

[Charlet_2007]

does this thiaminase effect turtles and all reptiles this way or just garters?

[adamanteus]

I think it would effect all reptiles in the same way. I don't know how mammals cope with it.....
I don't eat many Goldfish!

[Stefan-A]

Doesn't even affect reptiles alone, it's mammals as well. You shouldn't even feed your cat raw fish from this family.