Hello from Reptastic!

[Lori P]

Hi Shannon, and welcome! Coooool, another snakey mind to pick for info!! :-) I could not see your pic, just a red x... sigh... maybe it'll pop up for me later.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

you know now that you guys say that. She very well could be a maritime. Maritimes and Easterns are very much alike! I did not find ANY other maritimes on that trip. They were all very dark easterns with a nice stripe. She was found in the pocono mountain area at arrowhead lake, Pennsylvania. There is one odd thing about this specimen. if you notice her labial scales. what would normally be the second labial scale from her nose is actually divided in half, giving her a count of 8 and not 7 labial scales on each side of her mouth. I was under the impression that both maritimes and easterns have 7. at least, all of mine do. Correct me if I am wrong, I am only 19 after all and I of course make mistakes. But this divided scale is not as well separated as the other scales if you know what I mean. I am going to write a full post about her right now in an apporpriate forum and I'll inclide more pics of her and her BABIES!!!!

[anji1971]

Hello and welcome!! That snake is gorgeous, lucky you to find it!!!

[tikichick]

Welcome to the forum! Beautiful snake!

[adamanteus]

It can sometimes happen that scales sub-divide to give a higher count, or occasional fuse together to form lower counts. It isn't rare to see the larger head scutes (pre-frontals, frontals, parietals etc) fused together to form larger plates.

[GarterGuy]

you know now that you guys say that. She very well could be a maritime. Maritimes and Easterns are very much alike! I did not find ANY other maritimes on that trip. They were all very dark easterns with a nice stripe. She was found in the pocono mountain area at arrowhead lake, Pennsylvania. There is one odd thing about this specimen. if you notice her labial scales. what would normally be the second labial scale from her nose is actually divided in half, giving her a count of 8 and not 7 labial scales on each side of her mouth. I was under the impression that both maritimes and easterns have 7. at least, all of mine do. Correct me if I am wrong, I am only 19 after all and I of course make mistakes. But this divided scale is not as well separated as the other scales if you know what I mean. I am going to write a full post about her right now in an apporpriate forum and I'll inclide more pics of her and her BABIES!!!!

Well I don't think you've got a pallidulus now, the Pocono's are well outside the range of this subspecies. To my knowledge they've not been recorded here in PA. As far as the labial count.....yeh, like James said, sometimes that can happen and really play with you when you're trying to ID a snake! Looks like a really nice morph of sirtalis. Since it sounds like you're going to breed it, hope the characteristic carries over into the offspring. It'll be interesting to see what you get.

[Snaky]

Welcome to the forum and enjoy it here

[adamanteus]

Hi there! I'm a Super Moderator over at reptastic.com,

So, what differentiates between a moderator and a super moderator? I quite fancy that title. Perhaps I'll alter mine, maybe when I reach 5,000 posts.

[Lori P]

Super moderators invite us all over for dinner once a month and give us all one free snake of our choice.

[drache]

Super moderators invite us all over for dinner once a month and give us all one free snake of our choice.

sounds good
does that include airfare?