Pugets on Kingsnake (No, not Bob! lol)

[Tori]

I can tell you about how many garters they will have at the Taylor show, very few. I only went a couple of times, but I wasn't impressed. Plus we have two monthly reptile shows closer to me. They are starting to get more into garters but it still isn't a lot of them. They have surprised me once or twice though. One man was selling pugets during the early part of this summer, I bought a gravid female from him. She only gave me one baby though and its a aqua color. I need a male by spring but I can't afford all 3 right now. Could just order from Scott, he is only asking $40 for his, but I'm betting he is only selling babies. By the way, does that aqua color change to blue when they get older?

[Tori]

Want to bet the poor guy gets buried under emails forwarded by all of us from Steve?

[drache]

Steve
I sent him the message
good luck with that

[drache]

the guy who sells them works at the bean farm
I'm assuming they'll be in excellent condition

[Lori P]

Steve, let us know if you get them!! And then post directions to your house... just for fun, yeah, that's it, just for fun....

[anji1971]

I can tell you about how many garters they will have at the Taylor show, very few. I only went a couple of times, but I wasn't impressed. Plus we have two monthly reptile shows closer to me. They are starting to get more into garters but it still isn't a lot of them. They have surprised me once or twice though. One man was selling pugets during the early part of this summer, I bought a gravid female from him. She only gave me one baby though and its a aqua color. I need a male by spring but I can't afford all 3 right now. Could just order from Scott, he is only asking $40 for his, but I'm betting he is only selling babies. By the way, does that aqua color change to blue when they get older?

Tori, I assume you mean Scott Felzer, is he in Michigan? I know I read somewhere that he grew up there. If he isn't too far out then I'll just contact him in the spring and go pick up the snakes right there. I know I can get someone to bring me over. That would save me lots of trouble. I don't want to even attempt to ship from the US, our customs usually hold things for weeks at the border, they'd probably die on me.

[sschind]

I have a pair of babies coming from Rob and Amy Zerkle along with a pair of T.e. vagrans but for this price I figured I would take a chance and see if he still has them. I'll let everyone know if I hear from the guy so you can all stop bombarding him with e-mails.

One of the vagrans I am getting from Rob and Amy is a worm and fish eater. This will be my first experience with garters that don't eat mice (other than babies of course) I see someone else here mentioned silver sides. I am assuming these are OK, I get them in for some of my customers for their bigger fish. Also are smelt OK, I'm looking for the list of OK fish but I can't seem to find it.

Thanks

Steve

[adamanteus]

This is the list of safe fish we have, Steve.
Nutrient Requirements of Mink and Foxes, Second Revised Edition, 1982
I guess it's only partial.

[Lori P]

I was looking at the bait store this morning and they have big, silvery minnows... like the smallest were twice the size of the rosy reds, and most were much bigger. Are these still safe you think?? I only ask because something I read a while ago advised against bait store minnows but I can't find it now to read why...

[Tori]

Actually, Scott lives in NC now, has for a while. I moved to Michigan from NC. Oh, and I sent forwarded that on for you Steve...like Rhea did. I'ld be curious to know exactly how many emails that guy ended up with....