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    "PM Boots For Custom Title" d_virginiana's Avatar
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    Re: When to separate out gravid females?

    Well, the smaller one had the first shot at mating and then went back in a couple times after that. The one that's been in with her since both males seemed to lose interest and I stopped seeing mating behavior has been my second choice guy.
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    Re: When to separate out gravid females?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tommytradix View Post
    ​thats so true steve the females drag them around first time i seen it i though she was gonna break his junk

    The males look so pathetic. All I can do is laugh, especially when the female takes them in the water for a little spin cycle. The look on their face is like "HELP". It's easy to understand why they have 2 tools. I've found wild males with injured, dead junk hanging off them. A quick snip and they are fine. Well, as fine as you can be in that situation.
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    Re: When to separate out gravid females?

    ​like this steve lol20140627_142830-1-1.jpg

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    Re: When to separate out gravid females?

    20140914_123824.jpg20140914_123307.jpg20140914_123901.jpg​its scary seeing that for the first time hahaha

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    Re: When to separate out gravid females?

    ​ive seen it happen twice i poured sugar on it and it went back in20141113_163032.jpg

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    Re: When to separate out gravid females?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tommytradix View Post
    ​ive seen it happen twice i poured sugar on it and it went back in20141113_163032.jpg
    Great photo Tommy. The ones I found where dried up like beef jerky, covered in dirt. Dried out and dead. When I clipped them there wasn't even any bleeding. They would have fallen off soon if I hadn't intervened.
    Why sugar, anything to do with osmotic pressure? Just curious.
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    Re: When to separate out gravid females?

    I believe it has to do with an ion concentration gradient in the cells (so osmotic pressure). I think the sugar pulls water out of the cells, reducing swelling and allowing it to go back in. I've seen the same thing recommended to treat intestinal prolapses in frogs and ball pythons.
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    Re: When to separate out gravid females?

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    Great photo Tommy. The ones I found where dried up like beef jerky, covered in dirt. Dried out and dead. When I clipped them there wasn't even any bleeding. They would have fallen off soon if I hadn't intervened.
    Why sugar, anything to do with osmotic pressure? Just curious.
    yes she answered for me lol

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