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    Mr Thamnophis ssssnakeluvr's Avatar
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    Re: How much should I feed my valley garter?

    the eisenia worms can be toxic. regular nightcrawlers can be bought at Walmart we get lots of them out during long rainy days and nights happy to help too!!

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    Re: How much should I feed my valley garter?

    I always check when buying any worm, as I find that they are all mislabeled... I end up buying containers that SAY "Red Wiggers" but are Actually safe "dew Worms"
    I check what kind of worm by looking at them, and if I'm ever in doubt I pick out a worm from the container n I pinch it n see if its a nasty yellow fowl slime or just normal clear worm slime.

    But it already sounds like you know the differences on the worms so you should be all good Beautiful snake btw.
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    Re: How much should I feed my valley garter?

    Everything I've read said that the fetida species is toxic, but the genus eisenia is generaly safe. Hortensis is a variety of Nightcrawler afterall.

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    Re: How much should I feed my valley garter?

    Quote Originally Posted by valleyGarter View Post
    Everything I've read said that the fetida species is toxic, but the genus eisenia is generally safe. Hortensis is a variety of Nightcrawler afterall.
    It's that word "generally" that would worry me.

    Canadian night crawlers (Lumbricus terrestris) are safe and should be readily available.
    I'm not trying to tell you what to do and I am certainly not a worm expert by any means.
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    Re: How much should I feed my valley garter?

    no expert here either =) Lumbricus terrestris are safe and tons of them are available. someone on here buys them in bulk... Might be Steve but I don't remember.
    check out this page.... Earthworm guide | OPAL the lob worm (european nightcrawler) is the lumbricus terrestris. I also find worm similar to the blue gray worm here in Utah...lot smaller and easier for little ones to eat.

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    Re: How much should I feed my valley garter?

    Quote Originally Posted by ssssnakeluvr View Post
    no expert here either =) Lumbricus terrestris are safe and tons of them are available. someone on here buys them in bulk... Might be Steve but I don't remember.
    check out this page.... Earthworm guide | OPAL the lob worm (european nightcrawler) is the lumbricus terrestris. I also find worm similar to the blue gray worm here in Utah...lot smaller and easier for little ones to eat.
    About a thousand a month here Don.
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    Re: How much should I feed my valley garter?

    WOW!!! that's a lot of worms! but then again.... you have a lot of mouths to feed

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    Re: How much should I feed my valley garter?

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