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    Juvenile snake angrygamer's Avatar
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    Re: Sex/species again

    Yeah, this really gets my goat that this vet could be wrong about EVERYTHING she advised me on. I was thinking about taking Glyph back to the same clinic but to another vet, but I think i'll avoid that clinic all together. I based it on location/availability/price and I didn't see any bad reviews on the clinic but that doesn't mean anything. I posted a listing on Craigslist for exotic vet recommendations and I got one response. I don't know how else to get an exotic vet recommendation. Ideas, anyone? I could ask the pet store, but I'm kind of weary asking anyone who recommends goldfish as Garter food.

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    Re: Sex/species again

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    Re: Sex/species again

    Told you I'm still confused about the whole sexing thing...hey at least I got Nate's ribbon right . Yeah...try Steve's link...I would try to find another vet if I were you.
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    Juvenile snake angrygamer's Avatar
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    Re: Sex/species again

    Quote Originally Posted by EasternGirl View Post
    Told you I'm still confused about the whole sexing thing...hey at least I got Nate's ribbon right . Yeah...try Steve's link...I would try to find another vet if I were you.
    I know what you mean, I am too. Every now and then I look at this diagram...I'm getting better. P2JYo.jpg

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    Re: Sex/species again

    I'd say female wandering, if it hadn't already been postulated, several times.

    The vet is right to a degree about the radix checkerboard, but that applies to many species. There's more to an ID than just the pattern, in this case the colours are more typically vagrans. With some of the species that have greater polymorphism the only way to absolutely identify the species is knowing where it came from, as well as looking at it.
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    Re: Sex/species again

    Quote Originally Posted by chris-uk View Post
    I'd say female wandering, if it hadn't already been postulated, several times.

    The vet is right to a degree about the radix checkerboard, but that applies to many species. There's more to an ID than just the pattern, in this case the colours are more typically vagrans. With some of the species that have greater polymorphism the only way to absolutely identify the species is knowing where it came from, as well as looking at it.
    Thanks for your opinion. I am much more familiar with the varying species than when I first started (although there is still much to learn), and that particular shade of green is really only found in Wandering that I've seen. But when you have a licensed professional tell you something else it's kind of hard to doubt that. She was so sure of herself. *sigh*

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    Re: Sex/species again

    absolutely a female wandering. male wanderings have large long swellings at the base of the tail. I can post a pic of one later, but that is definitely a female.
    and tell the vet that nearly all garters have the checkered patterns.... a pet store owner here in SLC called them checkered garters due to the checker pattern... duh

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    Re: Sex/species again

    Quote Originally Posted by ssssnakeluvr View Post
    absolutely a female wandering. male wanderings have large long swellings at the base of the tail. I can post a pic of one later, but that is definitely a female.
    and tell the vet that nearly all garters have the checkered patterns.... a pet store owner here in SLC called them checkered garters due to the checker pattern... duh
    Well I won't be seeing her again so this won't be a problem.

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    Re: Sex/species again

    Travis...which book is that diagram from? When in doubt I think the best thing to do...and I think what Steve does...is the supralabial count to determine species...isn't that right?
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    Re: Sex/species again

    Quote Originally Posted by EasternGirl View Post
    Travis...which book is that diagram from? When in doubt I think the best thing to do...and I think what Steve does...is the supralabial count to determine species...isn't that right?
    It's from a web page, I'll give you the link, but...care to guess?

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