New Flame Eastern

[RedSidedSPR]

Thanks guys.

Inbreeding. What is that exactly?

I couldn't care less about the head shape, unless it's at all.. bad... health-wise. But it's not a bad thing is it?
Will it grow out? Don;t care if it does or not but...

the head shape and those large eyes are because he has southern-eastern influence in him... you can clearly see it!

You are kidding right?

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

no no, I am dead serious. That snake has lineage from one of the carolinas, georgia, or florida. All the babies from those southern easterns have those big round heads and huge bulgy eyes. If you've ever seen newborn baby florida blue easterns, you'll know what I mean. they look -totally- different from northern varieties of baby easterns. You can also tell just by the pattern!The snake will eventually grow into the head and eyes. Promise!

[Sonya610]

Inbreeding. What is that exactly?

Your kidding right?

Inbreeding -- closely related relatives breeding amongst each other; also referred to as "line-breeding" among breeders of animals. Common genes increase certain traits which can magnify "positive traits" and also negative. A common problem that results in genetic defects in humans and other animals.

In captive bred snakes it refers to morph's being bred to relatives in order to magnify the morph trait, unfortunately you don't just magnify the "pretty trait" you magnify any negative genetic traits as well.

In humans it has been and is still a common practice in certain human populations. Either becuase they all live in a small community and marry their cousins, or because marrying your cousin keeps the "wealth in the family". Was common among the royalty in Europe, and is still widely practiced among certain human populations such as Pakistanis with very high rates of severe birth defects. For religious/monetary reasons they tend to marry cousins a lot.

Most pure bred dogs/cats also suffer from some "inbred" traits, deafness in Dalmations, hip-displasia in many many large breeds, etc...

Bug-eyed snakes are common in certain colors of Corns and is directly linked to inbreeding; it can cause problems with eye injuries and shedding issues. It can also occur in natural populations randomly.

I am no expert on "bug-eyed" snakes, are you sure your baby really is bug-eyed (a defect) or does he just look that way because he is so young?

[Sonya610]

no no, I am dead serious. That snake has lineage from one of the carolinas, georgia, or florida. All the babies from those southern easterns have those big round heads and huge bulgy eyes. If you've ever seen newborn baby florida blue easterns, you'll know what I mean. they look -totally- different from northern varieties of baby easterns. You can also tell just by the pattern!The snake will eventually grow into the head and eyes. Promise!

Well then it is normal and thrives in the wild population and is of no concern right? Not a negative result of inbreeding nor a birth defect!

[RedSidedSPR]

no no, I am dead serious. That snake has lineage from one of the carolinas, georgia, or florida. All the babies from those southern easterns have those big round heads and huge bulgy eyes. If you've ever seen newborn baby florida blue easterns, you'll know what I mean. they look -totally- different from northern varieties of baby easterns. You can also tell just by the pattern!

Ah... gotcha good to know. Thanks.

The snake will eventually grow into the head and eyes. Promise!

Shucks I like it. Although i probably wouldn't as he got older.. so it's probably a good thing

Your kidding right?

Inbreeding -- closely related relatives breeding amongst each other; also referred to as "line-breeding" among breeders of animals. Common genes increase certain traits which can magnify "positive traits" and also negative. A common problem that results in genetic defects in humans and other animals.

In captive bred snakes it refers to morph's being bred to relatives in order to magnify the morph trait, unfortunately you don't just magnify the "pretty trait" you magnify any negative genetic traits as well.

In humans it has been and is still a common practice in certain human populations. Either becuase they all live in a small community and marry their cousins, or because marrying your cousin keeps the "wealth in the family". Was common among the royalty in Europe, and is still widely practiced among certain human populations such as Pakistanis with very high rates of severe birth defects IF it is practiced generation after generation. For religions/monetary reasons they tend to marry cousins a lot and have a genetic problems.

Most pure bred dogs/cats also suffer from some "inbred" traits, deafness in Dalmations, hip-displasia in many many large breeds, etc...

Bug-eyed snakes are common in certain colors of Corns and is directly linked to inbreeding; it can cause problems with eye injuries and shedding issues. It can also occur in natural populations randomly.

I am no expert on "bug-eyed" snakes, are you sure your baby really is bug-eyed (a defect) or does he just look that way because he is so young?

Chillax, that's what I thought! I just didn't know every detail. But I knew what it was.
Thanks.

[d_virginiana]

the head shape and those large eyes are because he has southern-eastern influence in him... you can clearly see it!

Houdini was that way as a baby, and all the younger wild easterns I've run across tend to have that bobble-headed look too. I've never seen them from anywhere farther north than southern VA (and there it was still a florida blue), so I had no clue that was a regional thing! That's pretty cool.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

yea, the only way i can describe it is that the southern easterns look more "cartoonish" than the northern ones as babies.

[charles parenteau]

Male eastern have bigger eyes than female usually!!

[RedSidedSPR]

Well he is male.

I've been googling, and apparently, even as adults, they're always like that... basically they just have a shorter nose as adults...

I'm just glad it's nothing bad. And I actually like his head, so...

[kibakiba]

My male snakes do seem to have bigger eyes, usually. Maybe it's so they can stare at the ladies better.