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[abcat1993]

Wait a minute, I never said anything about deception. I was just wondering how some of you convinced your parents (or how you, the parent, was convinced) to let you get a snake. Me keeping my garter was partial luck, because my dad was extremely tired and didn't really care that my grandpa had found a snake while moving stones with my dad, and I kept it.

[garterman07]

yeah, i have problems with that aparently its true what they say "mom always knows" its true she can always tell when i am lieing...she asks " christopher do you have another critter in your room?" i said no she goes your ears are turning red your lieing show me the snake...and i was like fine...showed her rico!!! and she said ahhhh!H!H!H!H! and ran....but i still got to keep him so its all good now


and besides rico now goes to the elementary school some times to teach the kids about snakes and how to handle them. (plus i love the extra credit and time out of class)

[adamanteus]

Wait a minute, I never said anything about deception. I was just wondering how some of you convinced your parents (or how you, the parent, was convinced) to let you get a snake. Me keeping my garter was partial luck, because my dad was extremely tired and didn't really care that my grandpa had found a snake while moving stones with my dad, and I kept it.

Sorry Matt, I guess the whole deception thing was my idea. Best to ignore me and go with your own concience!

[garterman07]

actually i think the deception was my fault with the whole "buy it off line thing..." sorry m8s!!! best of luck to ya

[Cazador]

Matt,

Your dad might be working under the theory that something "earned" out of your own effort is always cherished a lot more than something bought. Maybe he's trying to encourage this type of adventure and discovery? I'm glad he has noticed the care and responsibility you've shown to your garter, and I noticed that he's changed his mind on the number of snakes you're now allowed to have . That's because of you, so good job!

I also realize that you don't want another common garter snake (T.s. sirtalis). You want something more exotic and colorful. Terry offered an excellent suggestion about showing your dad the enormous variety of garters available... just not in your area. Do a bit of web surfing and save all the cool garter morph pictures that you find into one directory, so you can show them to him quickly and easily. Then let him know that you want to invest in a more colorful and unique (sub)species. If YOU think it would help, you might also show him the prices (and demand) for some of these morphs. You're definitely on the right track, Matt, so continue to have patience and maturity... it's working .

Rick

[Serpentine99]

I never would have thought of the adventure and work for it part that you brought up Cazador.It makes sense that way.

My parents used to refuse reptiles because of responsibility issues. Then I got older and when they saw how well I was treating my many bonsai they decided to say yes to my request of a garter snake. I just have to design and build my dad a vegetable garden (like every year) and I can get my supplies and then my snake.I paying for most of it, I guess as another responsibility test, but I guarantee I'll persuade them into paying for one of the big supplies.