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    Re: concinnus, cannibalism

    They had not been fed recently, I could check my feeding records but I think it was at least 3-4 days since their last feeding. I also don’t feed them in their “home” enclosure or together.

    The first time she tried this was right after feeding. That was more than a year ago; I think it was actually the first time I tried feeding them. Since then it had not happened again. The first time was also very mild. Just a bit and then a bit of thrashing from the male and he was free and left alone.

    This last time he was almost a goner, I still can’t believe I was able to save him. Basically all I did was grab the female and give her a slight squeeze behind her jaws to get any teeth lose and pulled the male out. (About 20cm worth of male Garter)
    He seemed pretty happy (Joking of course) and wiggled like crazy. So far both are doing fine.

    I should add the female has an insane feeding response. She will sometimes get so excited in her feeding bin that she will bite her own body.

    Jeremy

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    Re: concinnus, cannibalism

    Sounds like she just doesn't play well with others.
    Nice save though he was just about done for.
    Chris

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    Re: concinnus, cannibalism

    I think this particular female may just not be quite "normal" for concinnus
    rhea
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    Re: concinnus, cannibalism

    Quote Originally Posted by drache View Post
    I think this particular female may just not be quite "normal" for concinnus
    Or the male has quite a mouth on him and insulted the poor girl.
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    Re: concinnus, cannibalism

    well...got some guesses
    1. snake minstreal cycle
    2. she wanted to prove she could play in "deliverence"
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    Re: concinnus, cannibalism

    I would say she is the one with the attitude problem.


    Shot from last year but she was always the most "jumpy" of the two.

    Jeremy

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    Re: concinnus, cannibalism

    Well, there was that one time when I had fed my adult concinnus. I had fish smell on my finger and forgot to wash. My finger was halfway down her throat before I knew it. Maybe something like that happened here.

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    Re: concinnus, cannibalism

    it usualy is a case of i want the food u have
    with snakes the food someone else has is "better"
    usualy they eat each other while feeding or shortly after.
    u sure u didnt feed them?
    because when 1 snake starts with eating on side of the meal
    and the other 1 starts on the other side
    one wil be eaten unless u take them appart
    cant think of anything else
    cause none of the thamnophis family have cannibalism in their nature as far as i know
    grtz richard

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    Re: concinnus, cannibalism

    Quote Originally Posted by De Foezel View Post
    cause none of the thamnophis family have cannibalism in their nature as far as i know
    T. elegans vagrans does, as demonstrated by my own snakes and there are documented cases of ophiophagy by other Thamnophis species as well.

    Here's an especially interesting case, mainly thanks to the photos:
    http://forums.kingsnake.com/viewarch...92559&key=2009

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    Re: concinnus, cannibalism

    ok so the only problem in this case in missinformation or rather no information sought on species

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