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    I like snakes! mikem's Avatar
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    Re: Second litter of the 2013 season is a dandy!!!

    Congrats! Looks like a nice litter
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    Re: Second litter of the 2013 season is a dandy!!!

    Very nice Jeff! Can't wait for more pics of these two litters, love the radix. Do you know what you will keep for future projects and what will be for sale based on what your getting?

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    Re: Second litter of the 2013 season is a dandy!!!

    Awesome congrats Jeff! I love seeing your litters because of the multitude of different morphs in a single litter.

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    Re: Second litter of the 2013 season is a dandy!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan72 View Post
    Very nice Jeff! Can't wait for more pics of these two litters, love the radix. Do you know what you will keep for future projects and what will be for sale based on what your getting?
    Sorry Dan its too early for me to decide what I will keep and what will sell. First off they have to be feeding great before I would even consider selling them. I don't sell problem snakes to other people PERIOD. If there is something in particular you are interested in let me know, but keep in mind I hopefully have other litters still to come.

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    Re: Second litter of the 2013 season is a dandy!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Snake View Post
    Awesome congrats Jeff! I love seeing your litters because of the multitude of different morphs in a single litter.
    I hear ya brother, I enjoy seeing the "variety pack" litters too, especially when its a surprise,lol.

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    Re: Second litter of the 2013 season is a dandy!!!

    just like we have different albinos i think the anery and axanthic plains garters could actually be 2 different varieties of a melanistic. What do you think Jeff?

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    Re: Second litter of the 2013 season is a dandy!!!

    I think that the axanthic and anerythristic genes mostly remove pigments rather than adding melanin and the evidence of that is that albinos have yellows and orange colors, but when in combination with the anerythrist or axanthic genes those colors are removed resulting in the snow. This isn't exactly a new concept in snake morphs. We have had this discussion no less than a dozen times and it makes more sense for me to go spend my time discussing global warming with a republican.

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    Re: Second litter of the 2013 season is a dandy!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff B View Post
    I think that the axanthic and anerythristic genes mostly remove pigments rather than adding melanin and the evidence of that is that albinos have yellows and orange colors, but when in combination with the anerythrist or axanthic genes those colors are removed resulting in the snow. This isn't exactly a new concept in snake morphs. We have had this discussion no less than a dozen times and it makes more sense for me to go spend my time discussing global warming with a republican.
    sorry it still does not make sense to me, i see the blacks and blues being taken away...

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    Re: Second litter of the 2013 season is a dandy!!!

    Albino does take away the melanin, so what takes the other pigments away, the oranges and yellows away from the snow? .........The anerythristic and anery.

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    Re: Second litter of the 2013 season is a dandy!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff B View Post
    Albino does take away the melanin, so what takes the other pigments away, the oranges and yellows away from the snow? .........The anerythristic and anery.
    the melanistics dont have reds, oranges or yellows so when the albino takes away that dark pigment your left with nothing.
    i think the anery is melanistic, the axanthic melanistic(they are compatable,we have known that for a long time and they look VERY similar and both created a "snow")and Steves'(Quidofatherof5)black and white is axanthic. That would make more sense to me and probably to other people. Peace out, to bad about the "axanthic" chicago garter

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