Spring Sightings

[jitami]

In another thread, maybe on another forum, it was decided they were easterns and not chicagos.

[Chulio]

Yes I think they are easterns. I live in Franklin WI.

The thing that is different about these to is how much bigger there are than
the rest of the snakes. Most others the head is smaller than the body.
Maybe these are older as I have seen them for about 5 years.
Here is an offspring that is 2 years old I think

[ConcinusMan]

Darnit! I'm wrong again!! I still say it wouldn't be too difficult to find a T. elegans that looks just like the original pictures, but yeah, if I knew the location, easterns would would be my second guess.

[Faunaofthenorth]

well if you live in wisconsin then you wouldnt find elegans there, not part of their range, easterns are my guess because in northern minnesota besides a few red sided and plains popping up randomly rarely i have thousands of easterns, i pretty much dwelled in the wilderness with them when i was a kid, i was a man among snakes lol jk but no seriously

[ConcinusMan]

Forgive, but never forget.

Anyway, I hear you about the "man among snakes" comment. Sometimes I feel like snakes rule the earth when I find myself stumbling upon a T. ordinoides den site in the spring. I could swear they are ankle deep and I'm surrounded! They could take me down if they wanted to!

[BUSHSNAKE]

The Chicago Garter Snakes range does go up to Franklin, WI, Im not saying theyre pure Chicagos, but even in Chicago they vary just the same

[Faunaofthenorth]

that one does look a lot like a chicago, althought the patterns of common/eastern garters are so varied that without scale counts you cant be too sure, at least in this case, but i find counting scales rather, well boring, but anyways id rather forgive and forget then remember and hate, you kno, remember and dwell on the negativity if you know what i mean, because itll eat you up, like a snake lol

[BUSHSNAKE]

you dont find Easterns that look like Chicagos,HMMM lets see,anywhere outside the Chicago Garters range

[ConcinusMan]

I don't know about that. I'd have to agree that those easterns look a bit like some chicagos.

[BUSHSNAKE]

I DO know about that!