Other pets (pics and discussions)

[StrangeCargo]

Wow. Those copperheads are just astounding. And I didn't even know scaleless snakes existed!

Thanks Lora! Yep, a handful of scaleless snakes out there (Scaleless TX Rats, Scaleless Yellow Rats, Scaleless Corns, Scaleless Western Diamondbacks, Scaleless Puff Adders, etc.) BUT you rarely see them for sale and when you do they are $$$.

They still have belly scales (for crawling) and misc random scales. They eat fine, shed fine, etc... I give them humidity shelters in the cages- it helps with shedding BUT I do that with my regular snakes as well. They feel really cool- kinda soft/silkyish...hard to describe. Heres a few more pics of different Scaleless Texas Rats I own!

[StrangeCargo]

Very nice! Love, love, LOVE the copperheads!

Thanks Christa! Everyone that comes over and sees the collection falls in love with them. I lucked out on that project- it was started by a herper buddy of mine out here in Texas from an oddball wildcaught central Texas broadbanded copperhead. He's worked on them for years and has brought the project through a few generations. He purchased a new house and needed some cash so I was able to buy a few (well 1.2) of his colony. This will hopefully be my first year breeding them. They were cycled and introduced. I never observed copulation BUT I work out of town alot and have been letting them cohabitate for the past few months. A bunch of my other hots have been breeding...the nonvenomous all dropped eggs mid may... Hopefully it'll be a great year for production.

[StrangeCargo]

I have 2 buildings for my collection. The first is a smaller one that I keep all my adult colubrids in. I can cycle the building's temps (brumation, etc) and it works very well. The other is a newer building I recently remodeled. It houses babies, holdbacks, subadults, tropical stuff and most of my hots.

Here's a few pics of the cages/racks/etc.

Now y'all can see why I could use a a few garters in display tanks to liven things up a bit!

[StrangeCargo]

And a few more...

[Hornets23]

Very nice...those super hypos are amazing!

[Stefan-A]

Other pets go here:

http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/gart...n-garters.html

[Millinex]

If you're not going to wait for an answer to your questions than why ask the questions in the first place?

You've decided to pass judgement and sentence on someone you don't even know.
Not very professional or polite. In my opinion.

Someone brags about keeping 3 Tegus in a less than suitable environment. He's blatantly admitting to awful husbandry and failing to provide the proper conditions for his animal. The animal suffered if it wasn't kept in the right conditions, I have no reason to be polite to someone who throws basic husbandry out the window.

First of all Who said anything about 5-10 years? Perhaps you should learn how to read! I'm not going to answer any of your rude questions! Why don't you go on the tegu forum if you are such an expert?

75% of people who make statements like yours are like "yea my tegu lived to 8 years!" which in reality, is an extremely short life span for such an animal. If you come to a forum and start bragging about poor husbandry expect someone to call you on it, regardless of what type of forum it is.

If I where to suddenly post about how I kept my iguana in a desert enclosure I would expect someone on here to call me on it- because it is BASIC husbandry that people should know and correct. I'd be pretty upset if everyone was like "lol garter snake forum who cares about your iguana and its suffering" It's a herp, something we all have a common interest in, regardless of species.

I gotta agree with Steve. Highly unprofessional and very rude. Snakehill didn't say anything that would have called for such a rude response.

Anyone who goes around bragging about poor husbandry needs to be called out for it. I could care less if you think it was unprofessional or rude. Bad husbandry is unacceptable.

I'm not saying that they had no heat sources available! Of course they did! I'm just saying that they weren't kept in Tropical conditions!

They live in tropical areas and do BEST in tropical areas. Just because the tegu can survive outside of the optimal temperature/humidity ranges doesn't mean he should be kept like that 24/7! If you are not providing high humidity/proper temps 85%-90% of the time than you are failing at taking care of the animal, and shouldn't own it in the first place.

[ConcinusMan]

Alright then guys. Let's not go down this road again.

Wait until I'm in the mood for a good pointless argument so I can participate.

Arguing on the internet: Like mastur*** with a cheese grater. Mildly amusing, always painful.

[snakehill]

You know it is my opinion that you are a POMPOUS know it all! I was reading your posts and I saw that you referred to chickens as creatures that possess reasoning abilities. I have lived on a farm long enough to know that you KNOW NOTHING about CHICKENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would say a GARTER SNAKE is much smarter than a CHICKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[guidofatherof5]

Millinex,
Ever thought about helping someone rather than trashing them?
Seems like if someone isn't as knowledgeable as you they're not worth your trouble.
I'm sure you've made some mistakes along the way, as all of us have.
Might be better to educate as a way to help future reptiles and their owners.