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    Re: Albino T.s.parietalis on the Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    Here's mom to those babies. She is doing very well and pounding down the food.

    She was a wildcaught as Richard previously stated? If so does she have the bug eyes like most of the CBB ones?

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    Re: Albino T.s.parietalis on the Ranch

    I looked into there tub and noticed them needed a water change.
    This is what I found under the dish. As you can see from the photo some of them were curious as to what was going on.
    Actually they are asking for some food. Spoiled rotten little scrubs.


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    Re: Albino T.s.parietalis on the Ranch

    Great picture Steve!

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    Re: Albino T.s.parietalis on the Ranch

    It was bath night for the 13 scrubs. I still have 3 that aren't even close to the others when it comes to eating, size and overall vigor.
    One of them ventured into the food dish and mouthed a piece of worm then turned away and left. I offered that piece with hemostats but she showed no interest.


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    Re: Albino T.s.parietalis on the Ranch

    The smallest of the 3 none eater has passed away. She was probably too far gone to recover even though she had some food in her belly.
    Steve
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    Re: Albino T.s.parietalis on the Ranch

    Here's something for thought. Since the non-eaters have started eating every day, they now hang out under the hide with the rest of their siblings.

    Before eating-stay away from the other group.
    After eating- stay with the group.

    How about a a few hypotheses on this situation?
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    Re: Albino T.s.parietalis on the Ranch

    The snakes that were refusing night crawlers are now eating them. The rosy-tipped worms (Aporrectodea rosea) did their job.
    The little picky eaters are taking night crawler chunks without hesitation.
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    Re: Albino T.s.parietalis on the Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Snake View Post
    She was a wildcaught as Richard previously stated? If so does she have the bug eyes like most of the CBB ones?
    No. It's unknown if this one WC or not and no bug eyes, the bug eyes in the CBB ones isn't due to genetic defect like some Lucies, it shows up after many generations of inbreeding. Same thing can happen if you do that with normals. People are in a hurry to produce them because they only care about money so they take shortcuts. Nice thing about finally getting myself some of these is that the dame (mother, pictured here) doesn't show any signs of inbreeding defects and the sire (now deceased) was a WC albino. These babies may not be flashy and line bred for high red, but they are genetically superior to those that have been linebred for red and then severely inbred for the albino trait. Now, there's nothing really wrong with line breeding so long as it's done responsibly and outcrossed with WC every few generations or so. Also, inbreeding for albino is just about the only way to make more albinos unless, as in this case, you breed an albino to a completely unrelated WC albino. If I do any breeding (I'm only getting females) I'm still not going to inbreed. I will most likely breed them to a completely unrelated snow preferably but I probably can't afford one but I can afford an anery het for albino or something similar. That way all the babies will be 100% het for anery and on top of that, I could still produce some albinos too and they still won't be inbred. In fact, they will be ourcrossed 2 generations. Those could theoretically be safely inbred later to possibly produce some high quality snows, anery's and albinos.

    It would be very nice if Steve picked some of the reddest ones for that but I'll appreciate and love whatever he sends as long as they're healthy and strong and I know they will be/are. Got them to eat pinky parts yet Steve? By the time I get them it looks like I will be very well stocked with pinky rats and mice. Nothing would please me more than to be able to feed my snakes on just rodents or at least 80% rodents but that hasn't happened due to supply problems. I just can't afford to spend what it takes to get huge numbers from rodent suppliers.

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    Re: Albino T.s.parietalis on the Ranch

    Such adorable little babies!! I know these had the same dad as Tallie, but is this the same mom too?
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    Re: Albino T.s.parietalis on the Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    How about a a few hypotheses on this situation?
    Haven't the foggiest unless the group happens to be occupying the only or warmest spot. Then it would make sense they need to go there to digest.

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