Its oh so quiet Shh Shh

[Ruth]

I don't think there's anything wrong with it as annies are no more dangerous than a Cat and Crocodilians are under DWA so morrons can't get their hands on them.

I'm not worried about the danger side of things but the fact it makes it so easy to obtain these animals. If you look at the site very few even have details about the animals. I just think it makes it too easy and i can imagine the animals going to homes that are ill equipped to keep them.

[chris-uk]

I have just come across an online pet site that sells and delivers animals including anacondas and crocodiles. Am I the only person that thinks this is madness ?

CROCODILIANS

I don't have a problem with the caiman, as William said they are covered by DWA (as are the cobras and rattlers).
I'd take more issue with the complete lack of information about any of the animals they have for sale.

[chris-uk]

I'm not worried about the danger side of things but the fact it makes it so easy to obtain these animals. If you look at the site very few even have details about the animals. I just think it makes it too easy and i can imagine the animals going to homes that are ill equipped to keep them.

If someone has a DWA licence that covers them to keep any of the dangerous species, then they don't need additional information about them (to get a DWA they will have been checked, including a visit from an authority appointed vet who checks the room and enclosure that they are going to be kept in).
The issue I have is that non-DWA animals are being sold without a lot of information.

[Ruth]

That's the exsact problem I have. I actually didn't realise that caimen were classed as dangerous animals which obviously is dozzy of me. I know the reptile shop I go to tends to try and judge their prospective customers and have refused to sell to quite a few. There is just no way of knowing what kind of person is buying them and next to no advice given. I've actually found this is really quite common and I just never knew it happened.

[chris-uk]

There are very few shops that would turn down a sale, unfortunately. In the current climate if someone is going to spend a hundred quid in a shop, I suspect they take the sale even if they aren't sure the snake will be looked after well, they'd probably think twice if they had reason to believe the snake would be mistreated.
And most reptile shops barely have the knowledge themselves to pass on to the buyers. The number that give bad advice about garters is appalling. Saying that, some are good, we have a good shop in Coventry where they know their stuff and give good advice. There's at least one other that is dreadful, and a new shop which seems okay but I've only been in once (and one of the owners described garters as a "more advanced snake" on the basis of its fish-based diet...).

[Invisible Snake]

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"Here's a good discussion for today. This fish was caught with a nerodia (water snake) in it's mouth. Would save the snake even if you're throwing the bass back in the water (surely the fish won't starve) or would you respect nature and let the fish have it's catch?"

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Did it survive?

[Ruth]

Today I'd save the snake, tomorrow who knows

[ConcinusMan]

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"Here's a good discussion for today. This fish was caught with a nerodia (water snake) in it's mouth. Would save the snake even if you're throwing the bass back in the water (surely the fish won't starve) or would you respect nature and let the fish have it's catch?"

Looks alive to me. Tough call. I'm torn. Are you sure it's a water snake? Kinda looks like a garter to me.

[Stefan-A]

I have a noninterference policy for such situations. It wouldn't be the first time I'd apply it, either.

However, I take issue with catch-and-release, so the snake has pretty good chances.