Hi. Thanks for the reply. though I already know whta red wigglers are.

The problem stems in the latin names being simlar and therefore the possiblity of the worms having the same problems.

that is... are european "nightcrawlers" (there is a reason why I put this in quotes - you can name any big worm a nightcrawler as a commin name - doesn't mean they are the same as other worms named nightcrawler.) really just larger red worms?

Eisenia Foetida - latin name for "red wiggler"
Eisenia Hortensis - latin name for the European "nightcrawlers"

I have even seen some articals refering to them as europe's redworm.
these nightcrawlers would be DIFFERENT then the Lumbricus terrestris - or if I remember correctly - canidian nightcrawlers - which are/were commenly sold as bait worms before the european nightcrawlers came on the seane.

I'd like to buy worms in bulk online but I want to make sure what they are selling are REALLY safe even if they are labeled "nightcrawlers"

I'm starting to repeat myself here - sorry.

I really wish I could just get ahold of the person who wrote the artical to begin with. :

Do the people from gartersnake.info post here?

- Sharon