Noob ?

[ssssnakeluvr]

I have had a few ordinoides over the years...all were friendly, not one was aggressive.

[adamanteus]

I had a group of five ordinoides some years ago. All very placcid snakes. Really wish I could get them again but not much chance in the UK.

[Odie]

Newer pics.
She is very friendly and inquisitive (I like to call it sneeky snaking).

[Odie]

Robin saved it from being smashed by a shovle.
Hillsboro OR.

[Odie]

Odie,
If you have a shed of your snake, you might try counting the scales on that. Should be easier. Make sure you do your count at about midbody, the scale counts can vary at different areas on the snake, especially closer to the head.

Roy

I counted 17 this time.

[adamanteus]

If that count of 17 is accurate, you definitely have T. ordinoides, which is pretty much what most people thought anyway, I guess I clouded the issue a little with my earlier mis-count of 19!

[KITKAT]

If that count of 17 is accurate, you definitely have T. ordinoides, which is pretty much what most people thought anyway, I guess I clouded the issue a little with my earlier mis-count of 19!

I have not had time to recount yet, but I suspect that I also may have miscounted. I'll post results when I get time to do it!

[Odie]

Thanks everybody!!