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    keeled scales

    hi guys, the other day i was at my local herpetological society(that is one confusing word ha ha) and was asked why garters scales are so keeled. I realy haven't the slightest clue how to answer that question. Another member in the group suggested that it might be becuase that snakes slither through loose debris and that the keels help keep the debris out from between the scales. I would realy like to know the correct answer to that question
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    Re: keeled scales

    I've been wondering about that myself. The problem is that it seems to appear in snakes that have nothing really in common with each other as far as habits go. Both our adders and grass snakes have keeled scales. One thrives in dry areas and eats lizards and rodents (although it is pretty active for a viperid), the other is very much like a garter in its lifestyle, is usually found near water and feeds on fish and amphibians. I just use these two as examples, because they have so very little in common. They have different lifestyles and are not closely related and not all colubrids and viperids have keeled scales. But I don't see debris getting stuck between the scales on those that don't.

    But what do keeled scales do? They at least increase the surface area of the scale and the whole snake. They would cool down faster, but also possibly heat up quicker. Keels might improve grip, if they weren't specifically dorsal scales and thus not usually in contact with anything, unless the snake is swimming, but not all snakes that have them swim regularly. The keeled scales could at least in theory improve the camouflage of snakes, more specifically diurnal ones, but then again, not all diurnal snakes have them, either.

    If anybody can come up with an explanation that doesn't involve the supernatural, I'd be interested in hearing it.

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    Re: keeled scales

    Me too.
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    Re: keeled scales

    I think it would help them to grip slippery prey?
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    Re: keeled scales

    Well, those that eat slippery prey are rarely constrictors. And many, perhaps most, that have keeled scales aren't constrictors.

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    Re: keeled scales

    Yeah, none of my keeled scaled snakes are contrictors. Sometimes when the prey is being difficult they will turn their head to the side and hold in on their side for a sec though... But I doubt that is the main purpose. Hmmm....
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    Re: keeled scales

    Gripping slippery rocks? rofl
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    Re: keeled scales

    The keeled scales are on the top though.
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    Re: keeled scales

    Quote Originally Posted by gregmonsta View Post
    Gripping slippery rocks? rofl
    Then the ventral scales would be keeled.

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    Re: keeled scales

    Damn ... well they love to climb ... ...... but I think the surface area idea wins .... stegasaurus influenced of course
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