How Do You Tell if the Female is Gravid?

[anji1971]

Glad to hear everything will be alright.
Too bad about the non-gravidity (is that even a word?) though!

[Snaky]

That's always good to hear that they will be allright
Better luck next time with getting them pregnant

[Jack Neary]

Guys and Gals...!
You won't believe this...!
Do you remember my post from my visit to the Herp Vet, whereby he said my 2 females were not gravid? Do you also remember my 26 posts asking Wayne and the forum "Are my Garter's gravid"? DOH!
Guess what.....?
Just got home a little while ago after doing some shopping and a quick stop by Petsmart to buy some more Minnows. Went down to the basement with the new minnows and some pinkies and what do my wondering eyes see in Jacqueline's and Samantha's 20-gal tank?.... 4,5,6, no... 7 brand new ....whoops, make that 8 little tiny baby eastern garter's! Good Job, Jacqueline!!
However,....found 7 stillborns I wish I would have stayed on baby watch
detail, but I gave up after my visit to the Herp Vet when he told me both of my Garter's were NOt gravid...LOL ROFL.... This way too funny.....!!
Once again, trust your gut, Jack... idiot! (Darn Vet)
Much work to do... More tanks, add Garter room onto house, Hmmm...

Now... Ready for PartII?
Gulp...! What about Samantha? My other, supposedly NOT gravid female, who's is as big as a house! (Just like Jacqueline was a few hours ago!!!)
I'm going to go boil some water and tear-up wife's good bed sheets!

Stay tuned.... fellow Garter addicts!
Gotta go see about getting a refund from my Herp Vet!

Some early pics...
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[ScimitarX]

Congratulations What a nice surprise.

[Lori P]

Well, for an ungravid female, she sure did have some pretty babies for you!!

Good old vets... gotta love 'em... this is lind of like when my boss assured a lady last year, after blood tests and an ultrasound, that her horse was not pregnant. But the pics of the foal we got recently seem to somehow have proved him wrong....

[Garter_Gertie]

Well.

I found this when breeding Abys (Abyssinian cats). Yeah, vets are much needed... HOWEVER, the fancy is usually more right than a vet that knows nothing about your breed.

Not to say vets aren't needed when they're needed, but for stricly species correct info, trust the fancy. Day in, day out, they're the ones that love, sacrifice, watch, learn, do and practice their given species.

I'll always listen more to an Aby breeder - or garter/hoggy breeder - than I will a vet.

Oh, and by the way... CONGRATULATIONS!

[Sid]

Great job for a non-gravid Garter. Congratulations!

[adamanteus]

That's great news, Jack.... obviously a miracle!

[GartersRock]

Congrats!!
By the sound of it. The vet went mostly by whether he could feel babies or not? You can't always feel 'em.

[infernalis]

Christmas on August 2nd???

Congradulations Jack.... I have to wonder about your vet, must have scored that snake credentials in a box of cracker uhhh Jacks.

Ok Jack, everyone else has had the kitty, it's your turn