Its oh so quiet Shh Shh

[Stefan-A]

Nope, not yet. But I've read everything I've found, most of which is in either Dutch or German. The breeder is supposed to get a book on maura published, possibly in time for Hamm.

[Stefan-A]

There's a vagrans staring at me again.

[reptileparadise]

So...hows your dutch coming along then?

Don't worry. Maura are very easy to take care off! I kept them between 24 and 28 during the day and let them cool down at night. Hibernation was the same with gartersnakes. I fed them like they where garters..Actually, they are just about the same as garters. Just a bit more shy and very hissy!
The young where a bit more difficult. They only ate small pieces of fish from their waterbowl. So not difficult at all, but juuuuuuuuust a little more then most garteryoung. Also same temps, hides, everything

[Stefan-A]

My Dutch... is getting better.

Hissy is good. I've never heard any of my garters make any kind of sound, but the Natrix natrix I've met have often made it known vocally, that they disapprove of my presence.

[Garter_Gertie]

Amanda! I remember the last name! From Yahoo Garters Group! You asked about posting looking to buy snakes.

It's nice to 'meet' you. How was somehow taken, I don't know, by your niceness in that group and how well you handled their asinine answer.

[GartersRock]

Lol!! Thank you Gertie. That was me! Nice to know you are on there!

I still don't understand what went on in there. ROFL!!!

[Garter_Gertie]

I've not been in ages. Somewhat of a slow group. I'm not all that comfy there yet. And I really don't like the format as well as this one. Maybe I'll hop over more often now that I know 'Rockster's there.

[GartersRock]

Yeah, not on there much... But I check in every now and then!

I thought her comment on not wanting to deal with "irresponsible sales, like those on craigslist and such all the time" was odd... When was the last time you saw a garter on craigslist? I mentioned I would understand better if it where a more popular species. I think most people on a garter forum or list care about their animals.

But oh well!!

[Garter_Gertie]

I thought the exact same thing. I have to laugh about craigslist... I check it all the time for garters - just in case.

[GartersRock]

Last time I saw a garter on craigslist... It was a year ago. A WC adult male checkered. I don't know why they didn't just let it go. *Shrugs*. So I drove an HOUR to go get it. Nice lady... Seemed to really care about the snake and gave me some cool supplies as well...

Interesting part... The snake appeared to be paralized and completely limp from mid body down... And was COVERED in large bumps from white long worms beneath the skin... I have NEVER seen a wild garter in this condition. I took him. Kept him very seperate from my collection and began to remove the worms by the vets advice. (THAT was a DISGUSTING ordeal!!) Now a YEAR later. I have finally got the last of the worms. And interestingly enough... The limp paralysis is completely gone except for the last centimeter of the tail. Huh!! I'll take it!
He ate, pooped etc completely normal the whole time.

But anyways. Off the subject just thought I would mention that.