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    Re: Gertie's Gravid!

    a puget not compatible with another puget?

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    Re: Gertie's Gravid!

    Kev, it has never entered my mind to breed these boys. They're just ordinary NY garters... But for maybe Mr. Peepers!

    Nah. I've bred Abyssinian cats. If you breed correctly and put the breed first, you don't make money, you lose it. Granted, snakes don't need the rearing kittens do. HOWEVER, if you breed correctly and put the breed (in this case species) first, you're not going going to make money hand over fist.

    Here's something else breeders need to consider and it's prolly one of the very most IMPORTANT things: You're only going to keep, say, about 1% of what you breed. The rest you're going to pet out.

    Keep in mind what you're doing with your breeding. Because 90% of what you breed is going to go to people like me - that love their babies with their whole heart and soul and just want them to snuggle and love and appreciate. You breed in double negative resessives, or inbreed too much, not only are you HURTING THE BREED (SPECIES) but you're breaking the heart of those people that just wanted a pet to love and cherish.

    I know. I lost my very firstest Aby because her breeder bred for show wins and not to better the breed.

    Watch what you do, guys. Put the species first, over and above any money you hope to make. Then you'll make tons!
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    Re: Gertie's Gravid!

    Yeah... Stay away from him. He has pugets and valleys for sale right now. Many people who bought from him lost their snakes... Can't bear to think what that would do to you! Stick to the trustworthy and honest.

    Ahh! The horrible thing about my puget girls.. Is that a few months later... I will have to brumate them! Gah!! Darn it. But I want to breed them. So I will just have to wait all over again. *rolls eyes* Sigh...


    Wayne:
    Who said they were going to hybridize pugets? Did I miss something?
    I would never ever mess with those colors!

    Totally agree Wayne!! Pugets and Flames are #1!! And by the end of the month I can't believe I will have 4 Pugets and 2 Flames. Whoot!

    I nearly gave Bob money for a gravid Puget a year ago... Until I was warned.
    Amanda Tolleson

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    Re: Gertie's Gravid!

    I follow up my previous post with, "What about Bob?"

    Think of your reputations as you breed. Always put the species first. This will give you a good reputation and endear you to others in the fancy and pet owners like me.

    I want my Boys to have the 10 years that's expected in captivity. Should I find they only lived five years - Wayne, this is suppositional - due to a butt-head not knowing what they were doing when breeding, I would - as I did with the breeder of my first Aby - ream them a new butthole and SCREAM in pain and loss on the phone.
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    1.0 Eastern Milk; Carmello

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    Re: Gertie's Gravid!

    Ahh! I think I see where you misunderstood.
    When Kev said "if your male breeds with all of them", he meant all three of my female pugets I am getting.
    Amanda Tolleson

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    Re: Gertie's Gravid!

    Rockster, good things come to those who wait. Better to breed well than breed in haste.

    And I, yours truly - the nutcase, manic Garter Lover - will be on your waiting list for a drop dead, gorgeous blue that will out live me.
    2.0 NY Eastern Garters; Peepers, Jeepers
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    Re: Gertie's Gravid!

    Quote Originally Posted by GartersRock View Post
    Ahh! I think I see where you misunderstood.
    When Kev said "if your male breeds with all of them", he meant all three of my female pugets I am getting.
    "Ah, ha!" sayeth the pet buyer! Thanks, Rockster!
    2.0 NY Eastern Garters; Peepers, Jeepers
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    3.0 Puget Garters; Kunikpok, Tungortok, 'Rockster
    1.0 Eastern Milk; Carmello

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    Re: Gertie's Gravid!

    OMG Gertie! I would LOVE it if any of my puget babies could come and live with you!!! Spoiled rotten and all!
    And on the list you go!
    Amanda Tolleson

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    Re: Gertie's Gravid!

    ya that is waht i meant :P sorry if it wasn't clear enough :P

    3 gravid pugets wow that would be amazing and i agree with everyone pugets and flames forever

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    Re: Gertie's Gravid!

    i doubt i will ever get a puget
    unless i get rich and find some1 in europe that somehow has a puget

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