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    Re: Red Eastern project

    Quote Originally Posted by dekaybrown View Post
    That top picture rules!!!!

    I love those close up face shots.
    Ditto!!!

    Ditto!!!

    Mouse beds? Huuhhh... Will have to check the kind'a rodent aisle where they have the hampster/gerbil stuff. Glad a national chain as I WANT SOME!

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    Re: Red Eastern project

    Lump's right; In one of my Peterson field guides it states that specimens in the northeastern part of the eastern's range tend to have this coloration; I see it in almost a 3/1 ratio around here, with the majority having the red in varying amounts, and sometimes orange or yellow in place of the red. They're not quite flames, as I've found a wild flame once and the actual scales were red, but a class of their own seeing as the color is between the scales. I don't think it's a dietary influence either and is probably genetic. I'll try and find some pics of red, oranges, and yellows between the scales.
    0.1 Storeria dekayi
    Hoping to get some T. s. sirtalis High-Reds next summer!


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    Re: Red Eastern project

    Here are a few pics of snakes I've found with this trait; they're actually quite common around here. The one that's supposed to be orange is one of my girls and she's in shed right now and was flexing when I took the pic, so she wasn't in the best of moods or poses.
    In order of appearance: Red, orange, red, yellow.



    0.1 Storeria dekayi
    Hoping to get some T. s. sirtalis High-Reds next summer!


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    Re: Red Eastern project

    ya thats the same coloration george has right under the scales on the upper part of the neck

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    Re: Red Eastern project

    Nice looking garter.that a good start for flame project for sure,years after years with a good selection ,that giving you more red or orange. nice !!|!

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    Re: Red Eastern project

    Now I have 2 high red (extreme) flame males, I will use them as fathers, and the red phase for mothers.

    so when my red phase mother pops, I'll be keeping females.

    Hopefully I would like to produce enough flames that everyone who wants one can stop dreaming and get one.

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    Re: Red Eastern project

    I want to be on the list of someone who wants one...
    ANDREA
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    Re: Red Eastern project

    i wish i could be on the list but im in canada

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    Re: Red Eastern project

    Well he is in New York... Drive over for a weekend.
    ANDREA
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    Re: Red Eastern project

    ya but i can't bring them back darn government
    maybe ill get lucky and find one they can be found around lake erie which i am right next to

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