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Thamnophis inspectus
Re: 15 new het anerythristic red sideds
 Originally Posted by adamanteus
Okay. Here's the hard truth... the UK and European market want Mexican species... everything else is pretty much here already.... ( ordinoides is needed).
It seems the US want.. what? tetrateania and Natrix natrix?
We have problems from the off!
Ahem.... The Europeans dun have butler's. 
Nor have I seen or heard of a northeastern phase T. s. sirtalis over thar.
0.1 Storeria dekayi
Hoping to get some T. s. sirtalis High-Reds next summer!
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Juvenile snake
Re: 15 new het anerythristic red sideds
Where are some or our Texas brethern? They might have some of the Mex species.
Lump
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Re: 15 new het anerythristic red sideds
 Originally Posted by adamanteus
Okay. Here's the hard truth... the UK and European market want Mexican species... everything else is pretty much here already.... ( ordinoides is needed).
It seems the US want.. what? tetrateania and Natrix natrix?
We have problems from the off!
But James, what about lines? What about specific offspring from the snakes everyone has seen and said, "I WAN ONE!!!" It's not just about different species, but lines and maybe even specific snakes/offspring from specific people.
I'd buy in just to be able to say - as I don't breed - "I've got James' baby."
Quite being so pessimistic and lettuce look at the positive.
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Juvenile snake
Re: 15 new het anerythristic red sideds
Zephyr and I have your northeastern phase right here in our hot little hands!!
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Thamnophis Addict
Re: 15 new het anerythristic red sideds
 Originally Posted by adamanteus
Okay. Here's the hard truth... the UK and European market want Mexican species... everything else is pretty much here already.... ( ordinoides is needed).
It seems the US want.. what? tetrateania and Natrix natrix?
We have problems from the off!
James, I don't think we will have any problems at all. If I remember correctly, you have stated Eastern aren't as readily available there as other species. If all goes well, I'll have Easterns for anyone wanting some. I'm having trouble getting "normal" Radix. The deal I was expecting to net me a pair last week fell apart....With a little luck we can have the male Florida Blue you need, etc.
Sid
9.14 T. s sirtalis, 2.2. T. ordinoides, 1.1 T. e vagrans, 1.1 T. s parietalis,
1.0 T. s sackenii- Peninsular Ribbon
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Re: 15 new het anerythristic red sideds
Lumpster, you and Zephy are a pair! LOL!!! You guys are cute!
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Re: 15 new het anerythristic red sideds
See, James? Keep your pecker up.
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Re: 15 new het anerythristic red sideds
It may be there are more 'wants' on the western edge o'the pond. That may be something to consider and the Yanks ante up more.
There's so much to this. There's no way to not succeed.
We'uns izz gonna come TOGETHER!
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Moderator
Re: 15 new het anerythristic red sideds
I hear you..... But maybe 'the Europeans' don't particularly want 'this line' or 'that line', they don't really want a North Eastern phase sirtalis.
We have to give people what they want, or they just won't buy into it.
I know what Europe wants... I want it too... and it's Mexican.
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Forum Moderator
Re: 15 new het anerythristic red sideds
Also from what I have seen, the Europeans have some of the sweetest bloodlines already there.
Alan Francis has some stunning animals, The prices per animal may be slightly higher, but the animals are beautiful.
So the price to import a realativly "normal" eastern would exceed the cost of the highest quality "morph" bred from stock already in Europe.
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