Creamsicle Corn Snake

[Zephyr]

I see my butter corn out all the time... I guess it's just how you raise them. :P

[Steven@HumboldtHerps]

Beaniesmommy's snake, as far as I can see, is not a candy cane (I do not see any hi-white / Miami influence), and the cream in the Creamsicle is questionable as well. I have been breeding Pantherophis for about 6 years now, and let me just say, the breeding populations out there include a great big mess! Specimens with unknown heterozygous recessive traits, co-dominant genetics, polygenic phases or blends, human-bred intergrades and hybrids, not to mention in-breeding have turned corns into the goldfish of the captive-bred snake industry... complete with health issues and muddled colors and patterns. Boas are on the same path, as are leopard geckos, kingsnakes, and yes...unfortunately we will probably soon have some Frankengarters on the market soon! It's a shame what some mad scientists deem necessary, and it's a shame what some of the uneducated masses think they should breed, just because it might look pretty and fetch a higher price!

I am currently downsizing (not culling) my corn population because (1) I am switching to garter research, and (2) there are too many mutant corns in the world; we do not need to breed so many more!

I have chatted with Kathy Love (Cornutopia.com) on the phone for hours, and most of the big breeders - i.e. morph name discoverers (Kathy Love, Don Soderberg, Rich Serpenco, etc) would agree that a lot of the professional breeders out there that are producing hundreds of clutches for the mass market each year include a lot of amateurs who do not know what they are doing..... [inbreeding, under-age breeding, misnamed morphs.... I am seeing smaller and more emaciated neonates each and every year!]

Anyways, you have a pretty snake. I'd just call it an amelanistic.

My current corn population includes:

1.0 Normal, het Amel ["Snakie"]
0.1 Reverse Okeetee, het Type A Anery ["Jory"]
1.0 Type A Hypo Motley, het Type A Anery ["Jupiter"]
1.0 Sunglow (orange Amel) Motley ["Lucifer"]
0.1 Pastel (Type A Hypo, Type A Anery) Motley ["Lily"]
0.1 Snow (Amel, Type A Anery) ["Luna"]
0.1 Type A Anery, het Type A Hypo, Amel, and Motley ["Annie"]

I have 2 clutches incubating. One will result in Normal Motleys, 100% het Hypo, Anery, and Amel. The other will result in Normals and Anerys that are 100% het Hypo, Amel, and Motley. Do you see what people mean by the term "mutts"? It's not a problem when you know your snakes' genetic history, but what about the unknowns?

Rambling again,

Steve

[Loren]

I dont know the full genetic history of my anery male or amel females, but I know exactly what they will have- baby corn snakes.

Just jokin' with you Steven- I do see your point, and I definitely agree that excessive inbreeding happens with too many morphs in order to make more money fast.

[Loren]

whats the light colored red orange and white one called?

Not sure.
I looked it up a while back, but cant remember what I decided. All 3 were given to me. I'll make sure I figure it out before they breed, which will not be this year.

[infernalis]

I see my butter corn out all the time... I guess it's just how you raise them. :P

Hmm, wonder what I did wrong.

Lets see, Handling - lots, feeding - mice, enclosure - luxury condo

[drache]

I see my butter corn out all the time... I guess it's just how you raise them. :P

I totally think it's a personality thing
some snakes are just more "outgoing" than others

[infernalis]

I was trying to be mildly sarcastic, yet un-insultive.

CY is a very cool snake, and he tolerates handling well, I just have to remove his hide and grab on.

[beaniesmommy]

I will say I really prefer my garter for entertainment. I will continue to get ONLY garters. But, I have to say the "hold-ability" of the boring corn snake, what ever flavor it is, is perfect for a 3 1/2 year old. Thanks for everyone's info. "Kist" is a really gentle snake and is a great starter snake, I have no regrets.

[Steven@HumboldtHerps]

All snakes are beautiful!

[Stefan-A]

All snakes are beautiful!

Yeah, in principle.

But most Lampropeltis species look like they're straight out of someone's fevered nightmare.