I'm bummed...

[ssssnakeluvr]

red spots have large babies...around 7-8 inches long.

[Loren]

Thats too bad Don. Would those be oregon red spots (t.concinnus)?

[ssssnakeluvr]

yes. my orange colored female was the one that had the babies. the high red one still has a couple weeks left.

here's a link to photos of both...
http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/gene...red-spots.html

the one pictured on top gave birth...still waiting ont he other.

[anji1971]

Don, so sorry to hear about the poor outcome.
Hope the little survivor does well, and best wishes for the other expectant mom.

[Snake lover 3-25]

oh man...... that really stinks..... how often is there a death in a litter?????? mine had 18..... all living and no dead.....

[gregmonsta]

Crossing fingers for the next litter mate.

[Sid]

Really sorry to hear the bad news, Don. Sincerely hope all goes well with the other one.

[ssssnakeluvr]

oh man...... that really stinks..... how often is there a death in a litter?????? mine had 18..... all living and no dead.....

it's not unusual to lose 1 or 2...whole litter sucks tho.

[Snake lover 3-25]

yes that REALLY does suck....

[Zephyr]

Aww, it's okay Don.
You'll be getting plenty of babies from my gal.
Also, I was wondering this... If one were to manually open the sack on individuals who seemed to be having trouble, would they live? Are they attached to the sack?