Its oh so quiet Shh Shh

[Zephyr]

He does not move. He will relax his back legs and tail out, but then if you go near the tank he pulls them back in. On front leg moves, but the other is limp. His head cannot emerge unless we can move that broken shell.

I have no way of knowing about internal injuries.

What do you think the pain threshold is... think I should put him down or let him seet over night and get him to the vet tomorrow if he's alive... I don't want him to be in agony...

IT looks pretty gruesome, but, correct me if I'm wrong, there doesn't appear to be a lot of external bleeding. This may be because it's all internal, or it's just the shell and part of the arm connected to it that's cracked.

[adamanteus]

just the shell.

Kyle, there is no 'just' about the shell..... It's not a lizard in a box......
I don't mean to seem harsh, but to put this one right, you'd have to have a very good knowledge of medicine and Chelonian morphology. The spine is fused to the inside of the carapace...... that is clearly severed. The organs are connected by supportive tissue directly to the inside of the carapace. This guy's in a mess.

[Stefan-A]

I definitely know what I would do.

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

Lori i would do what james suggested, out him out of his misery

[Zephyr]

I would wait til tomorrow and see how's he's doing. If in the morning he's either dead or in even more obvious misery than he is right now, I would euthanize him.
However, if he's observably the same, you can concur that there isn't a large amount of internal damage. Obviously, if his bodily functions cannot keep him through the night, then there's massive internal bleeding...

[Stefan-A]

Good night, folks.

[adamanteus]

Night Stefan. Thanks for all your help with the video thing.

[Lori P]

Crap. Ok. Jamie is going to shoot him with the shotgun, I can't think of a more instant death than that unless someone has something for me.

Thanks guys... thanks so much. Poor thing, I was really hoping for him.

[Lori P]

Kyle, I hear ya, but Jamie just got home and looked at him and said, oh, there's no way. Crap on a stick. :-(

[adamanteus]

Damned traffic. We have a lot to answer for.