Just Gotta Ask...

[OregonHerpaholic]

I AM IN LOVE WITH THE SAN FRANCISCO GARTER SNAKE. THEY ARE A BIG NO NO IN US. (Near extintion in wild) BUT PERFECTLY FINE ELSEWHERE...which is why there are so many beautiful pictures I get to see.

SO, I JUST GOTTA ASK..

What do they sell for in Europe??? Here, it is a $10,000 fine, plus possible year in prison.

I can only dream....

[Boots]

A couple of months ago there was an adult pair for sell for $1600.00 CAD in Toronto. From what I have heard from other members, they sell for a lot less in Europe.

Jason

[Daniel]

Hi guys,

in Europe you may get young tetrataenia males for something around € 60 or USD 80. But this is really cheap and not so common. Normally you have to pay € 120 or $ 160 for a single tetrataenia.

For an adult female a friend of mine payed € 350 or $ 475 on the last years Hamm show.

Best wishes,

Daniel

[hjelte]

yeah, I was at a reptile-expo this january and you could buy tetrataenia for 1500 swedish crowns, which I believe is about 130 dollars or something around there.

[Thamnophis]

In the Netherlands between € 75,-- and € 125,-- for animals of a few months old.

[ssssnakeluvr]

sigh......just gonna keep on dreaming....such beautiful snakes...and all I can do is collect photos of the internet......

[suzoo]

I did not know we could not own them in the US. Not even if you can prove they were bought elsewhere?

[GarterGuy]

I did not know we could not own them in the US. Not even if you can prove they were bought elsewhere?

Yep, they're a federally protected species, you'd need a special permit to have them and even with that, it's been designated that it's too hard to tell captive bred "legal" animals from wildcaught ones, so there's just a blanket policy that they are totally illegal to posess. That's why you don't even see them in zoo's too much. If the snakes breed, it's too much a pain in the *** to get rid of the babies that the zoos don't even want to deal with them.

[OregonHerpaholic]

I did not know we could not own them in the US. Not even if you can prove they were bought elsewhere?

NOPE, need a special permit JUST TO PHOTOGRAPH them in the wild. Federally Endangered.. Said to be less than 100 left. The San Francisco Zoo had to buy theirs from DENMARK..

As I said, The UNTOUCHABLE SNAKE...

[Daniel]

Hey guys,

just to correct the last answere from OregonHerpaholic a little bit: The snakes for the San Francisco Zoo came from the Netherlands and not from Danmark. The Zoo in Rotterdam works together with some specialist in breeding tetrataenias. One of them (van Stralen) gave five pairs for a breeding-project to the Zoo of San Francisco last year.

It was a big thing discussed in the European Garter Snake Association.

Best wishes,

Daniel