baby lust

[drache]

yesterday i got to spend some time with my babies and it made me want more babies - in the future
right now I kind of got enough
but I am looking at spring
mind you - I haven't started anyone on a brumation track, except that I didn't feed my red-sideds last feeding day

I also had time to spend with Sammy - my favourite
even though I got Sammy a boyfriend this year, I hadn't planned on putting her into brumation because of her recent surgery
yesterday, when I hung out with her, I realized that I want Sammy's babies more than any others
here's a couple of pics I took yesterday (I'm at work, so it's links instead of pics):

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2385/...bac0db7d_b.jpg

the next one has a close-up of her scar

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2045/...eae19964_b.jpg

other than that scar, she seems to be in fine shape
I would not want to risk anything, but perhaps I could do a short brumation with her early next year?
any opinions/advice welcome

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

well i think as long as shes healthy and recovered fully than you can do a full brumation but if your not sure you could always do something like 2 months, o and what type of garter is that?, Parietalis? its cute

[drache]

T.e. vagrans - wandering garter

[Stefan-A]

Are you sure that's a vagrans? Sort of looks more like a T. sirtalis parietalis or T. sirtalis sirtalis.

[RZL36]

I would go with parietalis. I can see some red in the second pic.

[enigma200316]

I don't think its a Parietalis or sirtalis, I have both and it doesn't look like either..........if it is, its a rare one!!!!!!!

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

im positive thats a parietalis i recognize that pattern

T.e. vagrans - wandering garter

[Stefan-A]

Justin, both sirtalis and parietalis come in a wide range of colors and patterns and I've seen pictures of both subspecies, that have been very similar to that one. It could pass for a T. elegans elegans, but I've never seen one with red before.

Then there's the number of supralabials. T. sirtalis has 7, but T. elegans should have 8 or rarely 7. Even if it's not conclusive, it does in my opinion improve the odds that it's not an elegans.

Anyway, we need the opinion of more experienced people.

[ssssnakeluvr]

I would say that's a t sirtalis sirtalis....minor red and orange is common on them... doesn't quite look like vagrans.

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

it looks a lot like parietalis that has faded from age or like a northern one that didnt have that much red to start out with i didnt know that sirtalis could have red also it looks alot like an older version of my northern red-sided

I would say that's a t sirtalis sirtalis....minor red and orange is common on them... doesn't quite look like vagrans.