what about BOB

[Snaky]

He is someone that sells those nice puget blues. Some of the members here bought from him, but at the huge amount that he sells, it's almost certain that he plunders the dens around him. And he tells they are captive bred, which makes that a lot of people had some deaths...

An example thread:
http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/urge...isit-more.html
http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/gene...-all-dead.html

If you search some more, you'll find other threads like it...

[Lori P]

I had some experience with him, so you can pm me for details. But I did not go so far as to purchase from him, so can't say anything about the quality of the animals.

[garterking]

hey,
who's Bob?


Joe

Well Flak, For you and the other's that don't know, I will tell you what I know. I haven't purchased anything from him personally, but if you ask for some private messeges I'm sure that those that have can tell you in more detail than I can, and there are some horror stories. I only talked to the guy and was turned off by him early on.

He advertises on kingsnake.com. He has branched out a bit but started selling and still sells puget sound garters. They are some of the most awesome looking garters you will see. Their colors are amazing. Here in lies the problem. He says they are all captive bred. We can't prove it but how is it that he has so many that are young, juvies, and adults for sale. He must be constantly breeding all year long for the past several years to have everything, even some gravid females for sale. We think he knows where there is a den and raids it. He hasn't been the most honest person with people.

Many have bought from him only to get snake/s that have parasites and are already at an advanced stage, and many have died and that's another reason why we think they are wild caught. If they are and he advertised "wild caught, not treated, buy at your own risk" then people would know exactly what they are getting and could start treatment immediately, or at least be on the look-out for problems instead of finding out too late that your new pet has suffered, and maybe even ended up dead.

He has had many complaints but as he told me, I have snakes that people want and if I don't want his someone else will.

I don't want to keep pounding away on the guy, myself and some others here are just warning people so if you deal with him, you know what you are getting yourself into.

I hope this helps you and others. If you want personal stories, ask and I can tell you what I've been told or others can tell you themselves. I personally didn't buy from "bob" simply becouse of what I was told on here by people with their stories, and talking to the guy.

Also, there are a couple reputable (and awesome) people here who have some for sale. My advice......... I would deal with them before I would ever contact him.