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    Re: wild baby albino garter snake care advice

    I've never brumated a baby or neonate. I don't even brumate all my adults,

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    Re: wild baby albino garter snake care advice

    Just found the ad again. My baby has been discounted. He said something about a male being found in the ad yet I don't understand who found it. Kinda unclear to me. T neg vs T pos
    I don't really know what that all means. And I believe he's wrong on the age. October she was 5 not 4 If I'm recalling events right. I'd have to look back on my dates in my post to be sure. But I'm too tired to do it tonight. Anyway here's the latest post of Casper I could find.

    For Sale Albino NW Garter - FaunaClassifieds
    "to conquer others is to have power, to conquer yourself is to know the way."

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    Re: wild baby albino garter snake care advice

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    Thank you Albert for the useful info on brumation and the way to the study. Although I read that neonates don't go into brumation during winter, but that didn't link a study, I wondered how they'd possibly pull through up here without it. Right now there is freezing rain. It makes sense that they might brumate to escape that weather and winter months. If she stops eating again for an extended period I may try to do what you said but it also makes me nervous to try. Really good info.
    . Thanks. YW. This is information on a new study and research by one of the top garter snake breeders in the world (Steven Bol). As captives, young and juvenile garters are not routinely brumated however Steven has been doing it in captivity. He talks specifically on how difficult a choice it is to brumate the younger individuals. Certainly if you don't feel comfortable with it you can wait out the youngster's fasting by keeping your temps stable. Then also by offering food on a regular basis maybe sticking to live as more of a enticing option. It is natural for them to fast and or refuse food at this time of year.
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    Re: wild baby albino garter snake care advice

    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorPrincess View Post
    Just found the ad again. My baby has been discounted. He said something about a male being found in the ad yet I don't understand who found it. Kinda unclear to me. T neg vs T pos
    I don't really know what that all means. And I believe he's wrong on the age. October she was 5 not 4 If I'm recalling events right. I'd have to look back on my dates in my post to be sure. But I'm too tired to do it tonight. Anyway here's the latest post of Casper I could find.

    For Sale Albino NW Garter - FaunaClassifieds
    How do you feel about Casper being for sale? She's expensive, that's good. lol.

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    Re: wild baby albino garter snake care advice

    Nice.
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    Re: wild baby albino garter snake care advice

    Looks like she is getting great care. I wouldn't change a thing, don't panic if she doesn't eat for a week or two and I agree with Tommy and Ed, it is not necessary to brumate. In fact it is much more risky for a young snake to be put through brumation, since they do not have the energy reserves built up. As Tommy said, keep that humidity up over winter since your house will tend to drop in humidity. You can keep a moist paper towel on the warm side and replace it every few days to keep humidity up or reduce the air circulation in the tub to raise humidity.
    You are lucky to get so much help from Steve, what a great guy, huh? Good thing he is retired too, lol.

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    Re: wild baby albino garter snake care advice

    Thanks. Yes she didn't eat again for a few days but I offered her a specific species of slug and she ate it so fast. She only likes one specific species of slug and refuses to eat anything else so I'm going to keep these on hand all the time now. Picky eater dayum. Steve is definitely the man he gave me the hook up and TONS of advice.

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    Re: wild baby albino garter snake care advice

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    Thanks. Yes she didn't eat again for a few days but I offered her a specific species of slug and she ate it so fast. She only likes one specific species of slug and refuses to eat anything else so I'm going to keep these on hand all the time now. Picky eater dayum. Steve is definitely the man he gave me the hook up and TONS of advice.

    Thank you for your kind words Jeff B and user. I am fortunate to be retired and have time to try and help where I can.
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    Re: wild baby albino garter snake care advice

    Hey Steve wasn't knocking the retired...more like envious...big time buddy!!!lol
    You are very lucky you were able to retire at a young age and have hobbies.
    You have contributed greatly to the garter community and helped many, many people, something I am sure you did in your prior career as well.

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